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Zelenski agrees to minerals deal (fell through)

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Feb 26, 2025 at 6:53 PM.

  1. jjgator55

    jjgator55 VIP Member

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    Trump is his own worst enemy so why not?
     
  2. jjgator55

    jjgator55 VIP Member

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    I believe you’re hearing an echo.
     
  3. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

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    While you contemplate it all, you should know you have a premise wrong. The EU has given more to Ukraine, not "relatively nothing".
     
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  4. pogba

    pogba All American

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    You are right if you consider EU as a bloc I don't dispute that. I meant the individual countries of the EU. However, it is very interesting seeing those expressed as a % of GDP. Estonia and Denmark really stepping up.
     
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  5. danmanne65

    danmanne65 GC Hall of Fame

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    Who is the enemy here in your mind? Zelensky? Putin? Trump? I know what rational people think.
     
  6. chemgator

    chemgator GC Hall of Fame

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    Integrity and morality should be the first considerations in everything you do, even ahead of supporting your team and/or leader. If the leader is doing something immoral, you should speak up against it, not follow blindly. Acting with integrity and a functioning moral compass should be the top priority, not bending the compass needle until you support rape and murder.

    If betting on the enemy is bad form, then what is aiding and abetting the enemy? Trump is essentially a traitor, except he's not smart enough to know that. He's the first U.S. president to watch a foreign country invade a neighbor for no valid reason and say, "I think I'll support the aggressor and blame the victim while trying to extort money from him. And maybe I will try that and seize some territory near my back yard." Can you imagine FDR responding to Hitler's invasion of Poland that way? In Trump's first term, he had capable advisors that kept him from going too far off the rails on the Crazy Train. He does not have that now. He is in the process of converting the U.S. into a dictatorship that the rest of the world will fear and despise, not respect. Ultimately, the world will become a much more dangerous and more disease-infested place, with fewer and fewer resources and more and more wars. And the U.S. will be poorer as a result.

    Maybe you should sit out elections until, ohhh, I don't know, hell freezes over? Is "22" in your username because your maturity level is stuck at age 22?
     
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  7. jjgator55

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    Not to be viewed by Trump supporters.

    Dr. Rachel Maddow exposed a couple of things about the latest Trump embarrassment in the Oval Office that I wasn’t aware of, and more proof Trump and Putin have a “thing” going on.

     
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  8. G8trGr8t

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    Misinformation flow and maga blind loyalty.
     
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  9. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

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    Yeah, exactly. EU GDP lower than US by every metric, yet out giving the US. But our president just bald face lies and perception is reality.
     
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  10. magnetofsnatch

    magnetofsnatch Rudy Ray Moore’s Idol Premium Member

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    Hahahahahaha
     
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  11. magnetofsnatch

    magnetofsnatch Rudy Ray Moore’s Idol Premium Member

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    Now CNN is misinformation. Man the world is off its axis.
     
  12. citygator

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    Do I really have to dig up your Obama/Biden posts? This is a hoot.
     
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  13. G8trGr8t

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    You need to check your math and split value of munitions (mostly nearing retirement age) vs cash contribution.
     
  14. Gatorrick22

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    The EU is falling apart one dictator/leader at a time, and they're trying desperately to hang on to their Socialist/Marxist leaders they have left.

    J.D. Vance was right about what that little dictator is doing in Ukraine. He's taking men off the streets and conscripting them into Zelinskeyy's military by force. Watch this video a see for yourself.

    Diana Panechenko is a cutie...

     
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  15. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

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    I believe he means you are consuming the fake information, thus the poll numbers.
     
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  16. snatchmagnet

    snatchmagnet Bring On The Bacon Premium Member

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    Maybe he polled 25 people on his White House staff. That 1 for z was fired shortly thereafter
     
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  17. G8trGr8t

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    Has tilted opinion. Should have finished the thought...
    Why do you think musk bought X? So he could push misinformation
     
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  18. G8trGr8t

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    What do we do to stop the crazy train?
     
  19. jjgator55

    jjgator55 VIP Member

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    Is that an attempt at a comment or did you just have a seizure at your keyboard?
     
  20. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

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    Not sure anything will stop it. not in the short term.

    If Russia invaded Alaska today, Trump would call it unfair, blame Obama and Hunter, and 41% would be pulling for Russia.

    There's no quick fix as the true believers won't change their minds.

    Imagine trying to become a Seminole fan. How many years of endless misdeeds would the University of Florida have to bludgeon you with before you abandoned your devotion to the orange and blue?
     
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