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Young women are trending liberal. Young men are not

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Orange_and_Bluke, Oct 12, 2022.

  1. FutureGatorMom

    FutureGatorMom Premium Member

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    When I said traditional girl, that was not what I was referring to. The girls today, according to my son, have no real interest in being in a relationship, getting married and having children. He has been told point blank: I don't need you. They do want the tradition of the guy footing the entire bill for everything. Dinner, trips, you name it. He didn't mention sex, so I'm gratefully ignorant on that subject
     
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  2. wgbgator

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    People are getting married later and not having children until their 30s or later. I dont know how old your son is, but its seems ok if people in their teens and early 20s arent all about marriage and having kids. People change their minds later in life. Most of the people I know who got married out of college or early in their 20s are divorced, so not jumping into anything isnt the worst move.
     
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  3. danmanne65

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    and no teen woman is a vulnerable human being? When I first read a Handmaids tale I thought it couldn’t happen. Now I am not so sure. We have trumpers wanting to not count votes and religofascists wanting their opinions to be the law of the land. I am not including you in that but some of the state legislatures anti abortion laws seem to think women are only good for being breeders.
     
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  4. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    and conservatives are supposed to be the conspiracy believers. Embarrassing.
     
  5. danmanne65

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    Members of your side just tried to overthrow our government or have you forgotten about the January 6th insurrection. The Supreme Court just took away a fundamental right from women. Additionally I am a conservative. I believe in smaller government not different big government priorities. The Republican Party no longer believes in smaller govt. just different big government.
     
  6. Orange_and_Bluke

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    That’s interesting and good to know. I wasn’t a fan of the hyperbole about using women as primarily breeders.
    Smaller govt party may be a thing/idea of the past unfortunately.
     
  7. ridgetop

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    The Supreme Court did not take away a fundamental right from women.
    Please offer any proof of that statement being true… any.
    SC sent the abortion decision making to the STATES. They did not make any yes/no decision themselves.
    Fundamental right might also need to be defined. Is it due to how long Roe vWade was considered the law of the land… might not want to go down that path. Is it fundamental because of a women’s right to full agency over her body? I’d agree with at and argue she does not have full agency over the body of another living being (unborn baby).
     
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  8. mrhansduck

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    I think it's probably better when someone doesn't need you; if they spend time with you when they could be doing something else or with someone else, it means they want to spend time with you at least. That's a positive. With respect to the expectation that the guy pay, that's a traditional expectation for dating, and maybe that's becoming outdated? I think many modern women might offer to pay so they don't feel obligated to have sex sooner than they are comfortable. Once in a monogamous relationship, I tend to think the expenses of going out and taking trips should be shared assuming both parties are in a position to contribute. That's just me though. There are lots of men and women out there with different ideas and expectations. He just needs to meet someone who is a good fit for him. The world is changing, but these issues are not entirely new either. If he is more conservative or traditional, he may also consider meeting girls at church or meeting some Latin women. I think they tend to be more traditional on average.
     
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  9. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Completely agree here. White American libbie women are the worst.
     
  10. VAg8r1

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    Probably posted this before. Still cannot resist.
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  11. tilly

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    For clarity. I disagree with some of the laws being pushed and think a mix of compassion has to exist. We have multiple generations of women that have been convinced their human baby is meaningless. That's not their fault.
    Thats a societal breakdown.

    The doctors making a sweet living off of it though? (Outside of direct health reasons).

    And lets be honest. We all want our "opinions" to be the law. Its why we vote based on our opinions.
     
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  12. RealGatorFan

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    Um this has been going on for more than a decade, well before Trump was even a candidate. I have a 19 yr old who has had issues with females within his age group since middle school. This all started during the Obama administration. LGBTXYZ12345 didn't become a thing until Obama came along and made it a focus. All of the transgender crap and bathroom access all started during Obama's tenure. I remember all too well having to deal with it at my son's school back in 2014.
     
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  13. mdgator05

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    I don't want my opinions to all be law. I personally don't want to take any form of illegal drugs. And yet, I want just about every drug to be legalized. I don't want women to have abortions except due to medical necessity. And yet, I think it should be legalized as I don't think the state should be telling women that they have no right to their own body. You can have an opinion without turning it into law.
     
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  14. tilly

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    Cmon man. There are opinions that you have that are creating laws.

    Did you support the ACA? That forced some people to do something they didn't want.

    Do you support stricter gun laws (as I do)?
    That forces our opinion on others.

    Do you think we should have seatbelt laws? Would you support candidates that support it?

    Where were you on mask mandates?

    We ALL vote based on opinions and some of those opinions become laws.
     
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  15. mdgator05

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    I support it because of the existence of EMTALA. If society will not let you die for financial reasons, there needs to be a penalty on free riding. And our society will not let you die (legally or morally) for purely financial reasons.

    I actually am not a fan of gun bans as a whole. I support tracking and would be in favor of insurance requirements/market-based disincentives to internalize the externality of gun ownership. Let people pay the true cost of their gun ownership and I am okay.

    Not a huge fan of them for adults. The only argument I can think of in favor of them is that a lack of wearing a seatbelt could do psychological harm on another person who causes your injury or death that could have been prevented by a seat belt.

    Probably as I am unaware of any major party candidates that oppose it. Also, I don't feel that seat belt laws are a huge violation as they are a pretty minor ask, even if I don't personally think they should necessarily be law.

    In favor. Prevention of contagion spread is fundamentally one of the main purposes of government.

    We don't all vote to enforce our beliefs of proper behavior on others when that behavior is not harming others.
     
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  16. sas1988

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    There are way, way too many people as it is Tilly. How many more can the planet handle? Water is drying up EVERYWHERE as we speak and there just isn't any more land being made. Rent is so high people are becoming homeless by the hour because there is no affordable housing left in the world. I don't like abortion but damn, we've conquered everything that kills us (save cancer & heart disease) and have no natural predators that we can't kill so there is nothing to curb over population left.
    I suggest exactly what Maher/Burr did, no more babies allowed for the next 30 or so years. None. Then we can start repopulating as needed.
     
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  17. tilly

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    So you DO want your opinions to be law.
     
  18. mdgator05

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    Only if you treat that phrase as a pretty pure tautology. I don't think that my personal aversion to activities should dictate their illegality unless you can demonstrate that the state has a role from the perspective of dispute resolution, contagion, or due to a fundamental market failure causing an individual to pawn off an individual risk on others.
     
  19. sas1988

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    About 10 years ago I read a story about how modern women think they are entitled to the whole enchilada, meaning they wouldn't "settle" for anything less than a hot, rich, guy with a huge member. I thought to myself after reading it, Damn I'm glad I grew up in the 80's, whew. I know that isn't all women, just younger ones.
    I wonder what women wanted in a long term partner back in the 80's & 90's?
     
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  20. tilly

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    Curious how forced UNbirth is Ok, but "forced" birth is not.

    And no more natural predators? Have you been in a coma since Feb 2020?