You Think Florida Education is in Bad Shape?

Been dealing with unions for over 40 years. Show me a union, and I’ll find you a couple of percent of its members that are incompetent and hide behind union procedures and rules to keep their job.

 

That sounds like the crap you see everywhere, regardless of unions. Some folks are great at figuring out how to use every loophole to avoid working hard. That's no more a knock on unions than it is on private companies.

 

It absolutely is. If someone is canny enough to pull it off unabated, then you just have to wait until they slip up bad to terminate them.

Unions actively protect mediocrity and incompetence. I believe you yourself have had more than a few posts here about bad police. Well, who do you think protects the bad police when all of the warning signals are going off? It’s not until someone gets beaten, shot, or a knee to the upper back that the union is willing to not fight for them and cut them loose.

 

Again, I said that I’ve never known anyone to be “protected” by the union and you called me a liar. The only person that I know that requested the union’s help in a termination proceeding was turned down.

Besides, most teachers are on annual contracts so getting rid of someone is easy.

Oh, and by the way, nice goal post moving.

 

Unions actively protect workers. They protect all types of workers, from the high performers to the incompetent. That's their job.

What protects bad police? Police unions. But also our legal system, government, and citizenry.

 

Answer to your first sentence is yes. As to the rest of your post is all I heard was blah blah blah blah.... electrons.

 

Why is it that those that claim they are anti-union never complain about police unions?

 

Fla towards the bottom for teacher shortage. This was as of aug. Will be interesting where this is in Jan as more politics and state government in teaching makes an impact.






The U.S Teacher Shortage 2023: A State by State Breakdown

 

by couple of percentage you mean +40%?

 

Surprised at California.

 

I was trying to be nice

 

The chart is a breakdown of teacher ratio (per 1,000 students in this case). Wouldn't it stand to reason that states with the highest growth will have the biggest problems? Fl being one of those. More students are moving here (I know as we design schools) and the budgets for hiring teachers doesn't exactly turn on a dime.
Those NE schools have stable or falling student growth. I know some teachers in NY state so some knowledge there supports this.

 

The bigger problem here in Florida is that if you let someone go, there is no one to replace them with. I don’t think that some folks realize how bad this really is.

 

In St John's county last year, our kids high school started the year with three Chemistry teachers and finished the year with one.

I know of several schools that lost their Physics teachers and couldn't find replacements, so they just signed up whole classes of Physics students to FLVS and hired a babysitter to keep order in the classroom.

 

Florida Virtual School, K-12 public online school un by the state of Florida.