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Xi’s Careful Reply to Trump Tariffs Shows China Has More to Lose

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by okeechobee, Jan 31, 2025 at 4:56 PM.

  1. okeechobee

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    Thank you for noting I am a genius, but I didn’t know Trump was ending immigration. That’s news to me. I am sorry you have such a harsh view of your countrymen. It reads like you have a more favorable view of illegal immigrants than you do your own countrymen.
     
  2. okeechobee

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    This thread is definitely doing a good job of drawing out progressives and their true feelings, that’s for sure.
     
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  3. 92gator

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    Then change the...

    *LAW*.

    ...else your squaking about *rule of law* rings hollow.
     
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    lol

     
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  5. BLING

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    Or more accurately there was no trade war, just the threat of one that nobody wanted and nobody fully took seriously because we’ve seen this rodeo before.
     
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    Trump caved, again. Canada already had 16,000+ border security agents ... LOL
     
  7. demosthenes

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    One of the benefits of bordering a secure first-world country with low crime is to not have to divert a lot of resources to the border. These idiots out here are trying to force everyone to unnecessarily spend for less than a de minimis gain. Par for the course though.
     
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    Plus not sure what it’s trying to achieve. The “politics” are obvious on the southern border. Have to have a show of force against “invading” brown people for the rubes.

    What are Canadians gonna do for us? Stop an influx of Americans trying to escape to Canada? If it’s migrants going to Canada it becomes their problem. We know the fentanyl angle is bs because almost none of that has to do with Canada (something like .2% per search).
     
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  9. dynogator

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    China just announced they will be levying a 15% tax on American goods. Wonder what their "cave," will look like.
     
  10. mdgator05

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    They will send 10k PLA soldiers to the US border?

    But seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if it is instituting a program to control fentanyl precursors that looks exactly like the program that they suspended on Sunday that was started a couple of years ago.
     
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    If it can be worked out over a 30 minute phone call, you know it will be major
     
  12. okeechobee

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  13. 92gator

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    He backed off of an aggressive stance temporarily. That’s showing that he's not being a dick for the sake of being a dick, but demanding respect, while being reasonable.

    30 days from now (and within), we guage their sincerity, progress snd such.

    But the default is implementing the tarriff, not preserve the temporary reprieve.

    NB: L ingraham says "...at least 30 days"--Id call it "only 30 days".

    The rush came from Trump.

    There's plenty of time-he just set the tone with the EO set to take place in a matter of days.

    It's called negotiation.

    ...and he's negotiating from a posture of strength, rather than Doh! Biden's groveling posture.

    We'll see where it gets us, but the start is solid.
     
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  14. exiledgator

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    Well, since about 75000 die a year - about 750.

    Every death is a tragedy, but that doesn't put Canadian fentanyl on any causes of death list.

    More people probably die eating grapes. Should we put tariffs on CA grapes or invade CA if they don't stop exporting grapes?

    Edit to quote proper post
     
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  15. okeechobee

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    That is almost certainly a false dichotomy, because the border patrol at the Canadian border is a skeleton crew compared to what it is at the Mexican border. Hence, the amount of seizure at the Canadian border is going to be far less. I'd venture to say our presence at the southern border (all in) is exponentially larger than it is at the Canadian border. And again, let's not forget this is a very serious matter and it's likely the POTUS has a lot more info at his fingertips than the average TH poster. Assuming everything Trump does is misguided (a byproduct of TDS) is probably not a good place to begin conversations such as these.
     
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  16. exiledgator

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    Even if the number is larger, why is this a "very serious matter" worthy of alienating and threatening our closest ally?
     
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    Squaking?

    fine, change the law. Everyone agrees fentanyl is horrible. Try solving the problem within borders too. The FDA-approved fentanyl in 1968. You might want to check % breakdown of where it all comes from, but that would mean research
     
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    Fentanyl has been an FDA approved drug since 1968. Do you also care as much about all the different FDA-approved opiods that are killing far more people - that come from US-based pharmaceutical companies? Or does that not support the border narrative.
     
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    I have to take exception to the whole Trump pooping on his desk thing because that just wouldn’t happen. First Trump would have to remove his Depends and empty the contents on the desk, and then he’d have to fight his MAGA supporters for the opportunity to eat it. It is the way of MAGA.
     
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