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will they ever cease, border encounters set record

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by buckeyegator, Nov 15, 2022.

  1. buckeyegator

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  3. philnotfil

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    Stopping more of the people trying to come into the US is now proof that the border is open and people don't get stopped trying to come into the US?
     
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  4. BigCypressGator1981

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    November’s gonna be a bloodbath amirite?
     
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  5. thomadm

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    The corporations need more slaves...oops I mean "workers".
     
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  6. AzCatFan

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    When has the flow of immigrants entering the US ever stopped? From 1942 - 1964, over 4.5 million Braceros legally entered the US. By 1986, an additional 2 million were eligible for Reagan's amnesty, and many more were here who weren't eligible. The only times we've ever had negative immigration on our Southern border have been times of significant recession and economic hardship in the US. As the jobs dry up here, the immigrants return home.

    What we're doing on the border, more the same and expecting different results, is insanity. All we're doing is throwing money down the drain. Really want to stop immigrants from coming? Fix their home countries, which is much easier said than done. But immigrants leaving home because times are tough and coming to America because they are desperate is how this country was formed. We'll never stop it until there immigrants who aren't desperate enough to come. Until then, much better to control it rather than a futile attempt to stop it.
     
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  7. WarDamnGator

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    If they want to work at the local restaurants and stores here, I'm all for it. Service has sucked since COVID and these places are understaffed with the most lazy, useless Americans minimum wage can buy.
     
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  8. G8trGr8t

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    Why do you think these people are risking life and limb to come to the US and work for min wage?

    Fix that and the flow would stop.

    Enact a real guest worker program, funded by the employers, and let people come here and work and send money home to improve their country. Help the countries improve their safety and food supplies and people will quit risking everything to come here

    but it's easier just to complain and blame somebody and corporations want the cheap labor with no responsibility for controlling, feeding, and housing it.
     
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  9. BLING

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    This would fix like 90% of it, a lot of these people just want to work. Let them, but it has to be for minimum wage. Im guessing most employers (in industries that tend to employ more illegals) would be ok with that. Doing this would narrow the field, so law enforcement can focus on going after the human traffickers, slave labor, and drug dealers. Of course those crooks have a vested interest in keeping the system a mess.
     
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  10. G8trGr8t

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    neither side want to fix it. too much fundraising to be had and hate to be stoked along with the cheap labor
     
  11. mrhansduck

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    It's a legitimate problem IMO. To be clear, I'm all for more work visas and a track to citizenship. But I also think we should consider the source of the migrants and their reasons for coming. According to CBP (the below underlying and bolding is mine), asylum seekers fleeing authoritarian regimes are driving the big increases. If those folks are not coming for work but rather fleeing authoritarian regimes, is there something that we can do about that short of having the CIA trying to overthrow/reform those governments? We know that many Cuban Americans and other Hispanics in Florida vote Republican, for example, so I'm not sure this issue should necessarily be as partisan as it is. Also, we have to be compassionate but obviously a lot of these folks are not going to qualify for asylum status, and we can't take everybody either.

    CBP Releases October 2022 Monthly Operational Update

    CBP Southwest Border Enforcement Numbers for October 2022

    The large number of individuals fleeing failing communist regimes in Venezuela, Nicaragua, and Cuba is contributing to an increased number of migrants attempting to cross the border.

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    The total number of unique Southwest Border encounters in October 2022 was 185,527, a 1.5% increase over the prior month, driven by an increased number of asylum seekers fleeing authoritarian regimes in Cuba and Nicaragua.
    • Of the unique SW Border encounters in October 2022, 69,960 were from Venezuela, Cuba, or Nicaragua, which represents 38% of unique encounters and a 149% increase over October 2021. By comparison, Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua migrants accounted for 24% of unique encounters in October 2021.
    • Individuals from Mexico and northern Central America accounted for 60,824 unique encounters in October 2022, which represents 33% of unique encounters and a 12% drop from October 2021. By comparison, Mexicans and Northern Central American migrants accounted for 60% of unique encounters in October 2021.
     
  12. gator_lawyer

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  13. WC53

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    Will they ever cease….thread edition
     
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  14. buckeyegator

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    tell you what, when they stop i will stop, in other words, never.
     
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  15. gatordavisl

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    Sez the guy typing on his computer from the comfort of his comfy home. I won't click the link, but let me just guess . . . Fox News.

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  16. buckeyegator

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    would you feel better if it was cnn reporting the massive numbers?the problem is these people have to know they are going to be turned away, yet they believe not them.
     
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    Remind us how the Pubs solved immigration with the 115th Congress being all Pubs majorities and Trump was in the WH. I'm sure it was huuuge. LOL
     
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  18. buckeyegator

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    i will remind you that the numbers were not even 25% of the current ones.
     
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  19. BigCypressGator1981

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    Anybody planning on checking out the new avatar movie?
     
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  20. duchen

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    You hate immigrants and it shows in your non-stop creation of anti-immigrant threads. The failure to admit immigrants has contributed mightily to the employee shortage we have. But, the hatred just blinds you and many others. You should move to Florida, where a large immigrant population hates immigrants too. Shows in their voting. Odd that the overrun communities on the border voted Dem though. Maybe because people who actually see immigrants and know them as people don’t carry the hatred that motivates thread after thread on the same subject
     
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