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Will building a program work?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by gator34654, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. TrueGator

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    Talking about hot seats creates hot seats. Hot seat talk in turn gives recruits incorrect impressions, which turns perceptions into reality. Stop.
     
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  2. msa3

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    We want recruits who want the school and program, not the coach.

    His seat is justifiably hot. That is on him and his failures, not us.
     
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  3. Skink

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  4. TrueGator

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    There are very few recruits left in the country that want a program. They all go where the money is.

    Changing coaches every year will ensure that we will never build a program again.
     
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  5. Skink

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    So a big question is how much of this is on the players and how much is on the coaches? It’s likely that all 85 aren’t ‘bought in’ yet, and all the coaching in the world won’t make a lazy kid motivated. With depth the coaches can resolve the worst cases, but sometimes you gotta put that player out there because the alternative is worse.

    I’m not giving the coaches a pass on all of it, but it takes more than 1-1/2 recruiting classes to undo a decade of weak recruiting and poison culture.

    It’s still a mess and the overhaul takes time. Hopefully through the bumps and bruises we see improvement along the way this season. Read that SDS link posted earlier by ET. Go Gators
     
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  6. fredgarvin

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    Program building is fine if all the pieces are in place. We don't have that (yet?). Need a competent play caller and ST coordinator.
     
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  7. Skink

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    That’s just ignorant
     
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  8. Zepgator

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    Wasn’t that great?! One of the best articles I have read in a while. It was encouraging to hear multiple sources say he will hire an OC in the offseason.
     
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  9. gatordavisl

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    I wonder which teams you're referring to. Washington would be one, though I don't know how they have gone about it.
    Teams that have taken a while to build: TX, KY, FSU, MI, Penn St
    Agreed, but how do you define progress? This season was never going to be a juggernaut for the Gators. There were bound to be some bumps and bruises w a new QB and very thin QB room, not to mention the lousy defense from last year and young players working in there this year.
    Sure, but we're at year 1.4 right now.
     
  10. lizardbreath

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    Maybe you should ask Dan Mullen. Afterall, he has a wealth of personal experience in that area. I imagine he'll be in full agreement with your little "hypothesis" and will be happy to explain how the decision to skate on the "program building" (AKA HS recruiting), while ignoring talent and character deficiencies in pursuit of instant gratification, is still a really great idea.
     
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  11. Wanne15

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    The money and rings are mostly at the same place so the winners get their share. The random 5* that goes here and there is purely money or a particular school. Top schools offer both.
     
  12. partdopy

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    Probably for the better, considering job performance he should be spending time on that rather than social media.
     
  13. MarineG8R

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    Still doesn’t deserve the shit, unless you are excusing the behavior.
     
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  14. partdopy

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    I mean sure but it's a very public job and social media is a public forum. It's not like someone is driving to his house and threatening him, they're just acting like your typical social media person and whining about stuff.
     
  15. MarineG8R

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    I guess we found the culprit.
     
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  16. partdopy

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    Lol. I don't have any social media accounts as it's not really a useful thing. Personally I'd think adults wouldn't really care what's posted on it but that's just me I guess, don't find a Facebook threat scary.

    But again if you're demonstrably failing at your job you should probably eliminate distractions like social media.
     
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  18. partdopy

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    Well this counts as social media so I guess you're right. I had a reddit but was banned years ago.
     
  19. gatorwalrus

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    That's an L take right there.
     
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    Shocking
     
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