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Will being childless hurt Kamala Harris with women?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by okeechobee, Jul 24, 2024.

  1. okeechobee

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    There is a chance the Megyn Kelly interview was his explanation for the comments (which he actually did a pretty good job of and Kelly pointed to Dems who had raised similar concerns). He probably lets is fade away in the news cycle now. But he almost had to expound, which is what he did and now he’ll let it be.
     
  2. 92gator

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    I hope so. That's just not a winng angle. Imho, it's bait. Since he said it, those words will be thrown in his face, and the inclination will be to defend it defiantly, while the play to make, is difuse and divert.

    Take control of the messaging, and go positive. Stay positive. That's VP roll. Support from behind, not clear the path like the marine corps.
     
  3. SotaGator

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    One citizen (of voting age), one vote. No matter how many kids you have or how good / lousy a parent you are.
    No matter what pets you own or don't. Whether you are a homeowner or not. Employed or not. What race or creed. And so forth.
    Anything else is just absurd and grossly un-American.
     
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  4. okeechobee

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    Meh, the Harris campaign brought it up, not Vance. He had to explain his words. Still 100 days until the election. This will be old news by next weekend.
     
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  5. RealGatorFan

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    It depends. Has she tried and can't or has she and her husband decided they don't want a family? If they decided not to have a family I think it should exclude from making decisions affecting families. I used to think I didn't need a family to understand what it takes to have one and I was so very wrong. Until you experience it, you can never know. I guess that's true for everything right? If I know nothing about football, should that exclude me from being a football coach? No, you can't add, "but what if you learned?". I'm talking about never knowing a thing about football. Much like in her case. She will never know what it is to be a mom. They could have adopted, can do so now. I would tip my hat to her if she did especially if she got to her age today and wanted to be a mom but can't due to age. My wife actually wants to be a foster mom because we've raised 3 of our own and she wants to go through it all again. You can't know that feeling until you have done it.
     
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  6. NavyGator93

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    So a president will have to have first hand knowledge to make decisions on anything? Never served so can't be the commander in chief? Wasn't a border guard so no immigration laws? Not an economist so.....?

    The CEO of a company doesn't have to master every aspect of a company, just needs to hire the right people and listen to them.
     
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  7. SotaGator

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    It's we the people, not me and some people.
    Wow. Fitness for elected office based upon whether one is a biological parent? How arbitrary. How bizarre.
     
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  8. okeechobee

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    I wouldn't go that far. My original question is will this hurt her as a candidate to become the first female POTUS in history? Not if it disqualifies her. I think it may enough to knock a percentage point off her vote totals. I think Kamala already has a problem with male voters as it is. Even more so than Hillary. If she wasn't the running to become the first female POTUS, I don't think it would matter at all. But I think the first female will inevitably have to be a mom and likely a Republican. The Dems are nominating these divisive (Hillary) and radical (Harris) candidates to become the first female POTUS. I don't think it will fly in the USA.
     
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  9. SotaGator

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    Answer to original question. NO, it will not hurt her with the majority of Americans. Full stop.
    The gentleman (Okee) doth protest too much, methinks.
     
  10. gaterzfan

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    It is unimaginable to me that a decent, reasonably intelligent, normal human could "dislike" your post. Some "people" never cease to amaze. I applaud your wife's interest in fostering .... it takes a very special person to foster.

     
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  11. gatorchamps0607

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    She can hire people and get a VP that can relate to people with children. Maybe its a good thing as kids are an emotional liability. The best way to hurt someone is through the people around them. She can focus solely on the job at hand.
     
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    Sorry if I missed it, but does she own cats ?
     
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    Will being brainless hurt Donald Trump with women and men?
     
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    Can a twice divorced rapist make decisions for families?
     
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    Well said. It's mind-boggling what people will defend because someone on their "team" said it.
     
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    So….if a man has never been pregnant he should shut up about it? The post you quoted is quite the self own :D
     
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    The role absolutely requires a person to keep their mouth shut (once they actually are V.P.), for the most part, lest you say something contrary to the President's policies or wishes. But it does require some qualifications and ability to campaign. They just need to campaign on the presidential candidate's program. It is not a gag order. They do not have to be quiet and stand in the corner. They typically spend time lobbying Congress and collecting votes for various agenda items.

    Dan Quayle just was too young and stupid to contribute meaningfully to government. Cheney was actually a halfway-decent V.P., and one could argue the brains in the White House compared to GWB. He just came across as a bit shady.

    If a V.P. candidate is as dumb as a rock, like Vance appears to be, then I agree: less is more. He should probably stand still and wave to the crowds with his mouth shut. He's not much dumber than Trump is, but Trump has charisma, and Trump really believes the lies he tells: he's a professional con-artist.
     
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    Yikes lol
     
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  19. chemgator

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    The problem Vance is having is that he is not Donald Trump. He is saying some of the same kinds of bat-sh!t insane things that Trump says, but he is not a consummate con-man like Trump is. Trump has right-wing America eating out of his hand, and he has demonstrated that he can say pretty much anything, tell any lie, and his followers will believe him. When a shady character like Vance says similar things, it is jarring for the unwashed masses, because they do not worship him as their savior, so they know he's lying. It's Vance's job to give the campaign (and its policies) respectability (like Mike Pence tried to do), not to be the same level of juvenile-jackass that Trump is.
     
  20. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Some people cannot be trusted to vote responsibly.
    Hint, purple hair, gender-confused, politically violent libbies are suspect.
    Also those libbies without children of their own…their vote should count as half a vote.
    Change my mind.
     
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