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Will being childless hurt Kamala Harris with women?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by okeechobee, Jul 24, 2024.

  1. okeechobee

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    Best I can tell, Kamala is in the “unrestricted camp” and I’m not convinced a majority of women are in that camp (ie late term abortion). Perhaps a majority of Dem women are, but women as a whole, I don’t think so.
     
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    Kamala Harris was praised by Doug Emhoff's ex-wife for her role in co-parenting their children. I would also add that if being a biological parent is so important why do "good Christian" Republicans constantly bash single mothers?
    Second Gentleman’s Ex-Wife Defends ‘Co-Parent’ Kamala
     
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    And that's a valid choice for women to make. For themselves. I never said otherwise. What gives women, or anyone for that matter, to force this as the only choice on all women?
     
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    Best you can tell isn't exactly a ringing endorsement considering how ridiculous this thread is.
    For the MAGA , this would be an interesting hill to die on, but it's not like they can think things through.
     
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  5. okeechobee

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    I'm basing this on her voting record in the Senate. Do you have anything substantive to add that would suggest I'm wrong?
     
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    Our first male president did not have biological kids, and I don't think it should be a problem for a first female president either.
     
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  7. okeechobee

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    The question wasn't "should it be a problem?" The question was will it be a problem in the mind of some women voters.

    Forgive me, but the comparison to George Washington is just stupid. He led the American Revolution for chrissakes. If Kamala had that on her resume, I doubt anything could stop her from being elected. Silly analogy and it must have required an extreme amount of brain contortion to make it.
     
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    Washington was the first, but there were also subsequent presidents who did not have biological children. There are also modern political leaders on both sides who don't have children. Of course, women have been and continue to be held to different expectations than men, and Kamala will have to deal with that. I don't know how it might play out on the whole, but I think there's a potential this stuff backfires if Republicans want to demean folks who could not have children, who were step parents to children, and/or who adopted children.
     
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    You’re getting confused. You’re chastising him for what you do every time you vote.
     
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    42% support no rules
    42% support some rules - although what some means can vary a lot.
    Abortion Trends by Gender

    this is a losing issue for republicans. I bet quietly most republicans hate fighting the pro life fight as it’s a vote loser outside of pub primaries. There is a reason trump has seesawed all over the place on this topic.
     
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  11. okeechobee

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    Yeah, I don't think it will make a huge difference, but it may be just enough to knock a point or two off her total vote when you couple it with the extreme leftist agenda. For example, it would have played differently if someone like Nikki Haley was the nominee and she happened to be childless. Of course, Nikki Haley is not childless. But if Haley was childless, I think she'd get a pass due to her not having the perceived feminist agenda.

    I could have guessed Nikki Haley had children before I ever knew it for fact. She simply presents differently than Kamala Harris. I'm not a huge Nikki Haley fan, but it does manifest itself in how a woman presents. Or perhaps that's all in my head and it doesn't come across to women voters. But I suspect it does. Women are very perceptive of other women, in my experience.

    Regarding other ex-presidents, I think you are missing the woman / mom link in my question. I'm not asking about childless men. Obviously, as you noted, that hasn't historically made much of a difference, but that wasn't my question.
     
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    Who knows. Hillary is a mom, yet many people (including many women) found her cold, too ambitious, and lacking the sort of maternal warmth expected of women. Barack and Michelle have kids, but that didn't preclude the theory that Michelle Obama is secretly a man and the Obama family is a lie. Is it just politics? I note that a lot of Republicans now seem to like Tulsi Gabbard enough to think she should have been in discussions about the Trump VP slot, and Tulsi has neither stepchildren nor biological children. Tulsi recently said her IVF efforts were not successful, though, and maybe the fact that she wanted kids but couldn't have them might make a difference to some people who are raising this with Harris.
     
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    She was too busy throwing every black man she came across in prison.
     
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    WHAT? WHY IS THIS THE FIRST TIME I'M HEARING THIS!
     
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    I can think of a prominent white man that she could help with throwing in prison
     
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    To answer the question, it is not going to hurt her one bit.
    Black folks will vote for her for simply being black, she will get all the pro choice folks, she will either get all the never trump folks or they will stay home, she will get all the dem votes. There just aren't enough people out there where their single issue voting is based on having kids or not. Not enough to move the needle anyway.
     
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  17. obgator

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    I don’t think Jesus had biological children. Didn’t make Him any less relatable to Christians.
     
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    Looks like the deplorables are digging in into this line of attack. Now the couch molester wants to restrict voting rights for childless people
     
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    Man, he really does have a lot of mommy issues.
     
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  20. obgator

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    What are you disliking @Orange_and_Bluke ? This is your party and your VP candidate - the one Nikki endorsed, remember? Own it.
     
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