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When will republicans claim the economy is booming?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by citygator, Nov 6, 2024.

When will the Republicans claim the economy is great?

  1. Starting today

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  2. By January

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  3. Q1 2025

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  4. End of 2025

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  5. Never - everything sucks

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  1. GatorJMDZ

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    Trump gets the benefit of inheriting two very strong economies. He'll screw this one up, too.
     
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  2. VAg8r1

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    Agree. His tariffs and massive deportations if he does implement them are almost certain to trigger inflation. If Trump and Congress implement Elon Musk's draconian budget cuts the net result will be a major recession.
     
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  3. Gatorrick22

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    Military? I have no problem with a bigger better military, but NOT the useless pencil pushers in DC... We need to reduce the fat there.
     
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  4. dangolegators

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    Uh yeah, that's how inflation works. Wages aren't going back down either. For prices to go back down to what they were in 2019, wages would have to go back down to their level in 2019 as well. Then, instead of prices rising, you be screaming about wages dropping.
     
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  5. CaptUSMCNole

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    When real wages start rising above the rate of inflation and gas is below $2.50 a gallon.

    I will agree with you that Biden is leaving Trump an economy that is in a good position.
     
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  6. dangolegators

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    Real wages aren't going to start rising above the inflation rate.
     
  7. duggers_dad

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    When will Democrats claim that Biden has the S&P500 booming, since Tuesday, because of Biden ?

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  8. citygator

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    Trump’s killing it. Funny you missed the enormous blue growth but that red sliver is your line to amazing growth.


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  9. VAg8r1

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    Also adding that the only time prices actually drop is when there is a major recession and a significant increase in unemployment. The last time prices dropped was in 2009 when the unemployment rate averaged well over 9%.
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  10. CaptUSMCNole

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    They were in laye 2019.
     
  11. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

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  12. dangolegators

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    I don't think you understand what 'real wages' means.
     
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    ? That’s not true at all. If the cost of everything goes up 25% you do not need a 50% wage improvement… you need a 25% improvement in wages.

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  15. dangolegators

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    That situation would result in 0% growth in real wages with prices and nominal wages each going up 25%.
     
  16. citygator

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    Yup. Flat purchasing power. They are up slightly right now - like 3% adjusted.
     
  17. dangolegators

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    Yeah. I was just making the point that for 'real' wages to rise faster than inflation, nominal wages would have to rise at least twice the rate of inflation, since inflation is in the denominator of the real wage calculation.
     
  18. citygator

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    That math doesn’t math I’m afraid. It only has to be 0.0000000000000001% higher to be higher. It’s a straight ratio.
     
  19. dangolegators

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    The claim was 'real' wages growing faster than inflation, not nominal wages. If inflation doubles, nominal wages would have to quadruple for real wages to double.

    If you make $20 per hour and a widget costs $20 you can buy 1 widget with an hour's worth of work. if widgets rise to $40 you need to make $40/hr to buy one. Inflation rose 100%, nominal wages rose 100% and real wages remained unchanged. In this situation, for real wages to grow at the same rate as inflation (a 100% increase), you'd have to start making $80/hour, so you can now buy 2 widgets for an hour's work instead of 1.
     
  20. citygator

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    In your example inflation and wages went up the same at 100%. If wages went up 101% you’re growing wages faster than inflation. We’ve grown wages around 28% and inflation is around 25% since 2019. The way you can tell is real wages is higher. I linked it. I’ll do it again and draw on it for you.

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