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When Does The U.S. Start Looking At An Alliance With China and Russia?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by thedonaldgod, Feb 16, 2025 at 10:00 AM.

  1. duggers_dad

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    And everything you spewed is a valid reason to get off China’s lawn.
     
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    A new train station is announced in Boston. It is expected to take twenty years to build. China will have flying trains by then.
     
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  3. JustaGator

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    So they can threaten and try to dominate our allies like they already do?

    No, the Chinese can fight their way across the Pacific if they want to fight us, but they will have to start in their own backyard, because we aren’t moving an inch.

    Besides, if they piss off their biggest customer, they might not like the results.
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    It’s leaving fast!

     
  5. duggers_dad

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    This analysis points to the demise of European, but also serves to explain why Trump is proposing a trilateral arms reduction treaty while, at the same time, angling for Canada and Greenland.

    America has, for far too long, taken its Big Dog status for granted. Now, here’s Russia and China in the rear view mirror and closing fast …

     
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    Listen, we can walk and chew gum. Most of our weapons pre-positioned in Europe are useless in the Pacific and vice-versa.

    I can take Europe needs to get its act together, but abandoning Europe will not work.

    Trump's scare tactics are just that - trying to scare Europe out of its complacency. If we abandon them to Russia, then we will have no allies of note. Which is just dumb.
     
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  7. chemgator

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    Let us know when 40% of the Chinese people are not surviving on less than $2,000 USD per year like they are now.
     
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    Cubans work for peanuts but their life expectancy, literacy rate and home ownership is higher while their crime and homelessness is lower and their healthcare is free.

    The Chinese are Cubans with high speed rail and robotic housemaids.
     
  9. CHFG8R

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    Unfortunately for your friends in the CCP, robots don't buy things (consume), and that's what's going to hit them like a baseball bat across the nose when the demographic dividend hits the wall. Happening as we speak. Oh, and maybe you can explain what's going to happen to all those unused housing units that account for 60%+ of Chinese savings but are - at best - now worth 10cents on the dollar? Fun fact: Beruit has the same amount of available fresh water as Beijing, which sits at the mouth of a river!!!

    What? They don't tell you about these things on CCTV?
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    I predict China will collapse in 1994. I’ll check back,
     
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    Depends what you mean by collapse. Ultimately, it will probably devolve into it's natural state of 3-5 different states. But they're done dude. It's all plaster of Paris at this point.
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    Is South Korea done ?
     
  13. CHFG8R

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    No, but they have friends (for now) and are much farther along the value add chain than the Chinese. They're clearly in trouble, but are so crafty it's hard to write them off. Japan also appears to be wading its way through this. I have no faith in the CCP to do anything but look out for the interests of the CCP, even at the expense of the Chinese people.
     
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    S. Korea is also an open "rules based" system that we can look under the hood of anytime we like. China? Not so much. You get what the CCP wants to give you when the CCP wants to give it to you. Remember, this is a government whose greatest fear is it's own people. That should tell you everything you need to know about the CCP.

    Although, being a Putin glazer, I'm guessing you actually like and admire this kind of governance.
     
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    *yawns* South Korea’s birth rates are worse than China’s but births are collapsing all over the world. China is advancing so quickly, technologically, that with half its present population it will still outproduce us.
     
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    And, yet, it isn't.

    What? DeepSeek?

    LOL! Whatever.

    Mexican workers are better and cheaper.
     
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    “Rules Based Order” is American for “we order you to follow our rules or else” with the problem being that China is not obeying our rules.
     
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    The Chinese are Mexicans with high speed nitrogen freight trains.
     
  19. CHFG8R

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    STFU!!! Your so full of shit. . . or should I say FSB-provided tropes. In fact, you can't even expand on that beyond the simplistic trope. So, I won't be wasting my time here going over old and quite obvious facts. If it's so bad here, why are you still here? My cousin runs a business in China, why aren't you there?

    I mean, you're religious and they're . . . . Oh, wait! (here's your hint).

    Yeah, what could go wrong.
     
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    Stop wrapping yourself in the flag, Yankee Doodle Dandy and I’ll counter your anecdote with one of my own: I have friends who moved to China, roughly fifteen years ago, and they love it so much they ain’t coming back.

    They teach English there and the students show up before the doors open. And on the last day of school the students present letters of appreciation from their parents. In the US, most of their students were unruly and from broken families.

    Enough of the reptilian-brained China and Russia bashing.