What Policy Position Change by Harris are you OK with to win?

Trickster · Oct 23, 2024 at 7:45 PM

CaptUSMCNole said: ↑

Since VP Harris is going around with Liz Chaney this week to target center-right Haley voters, there is one consistent message I've heard coming from a lot of those types of voters. It is "What policy trade off is Harris willing to make in order to make it worth my vote?" So I was wondering what policy trade offs Harris voters would be willing to make in order to win the election. Let's assume she needs to make two of the following eight. Which two would you, as a Harris voter, be willing to see her make a concession on if it would mean she beats Trump?

1. SCOTUS nominees - Produce a list of centrist judges that she would nominate if a seat opened up.
2. Abortion - Agree to pass a law that limits abortion to the first two trimesters with the only exceptions for rape and health of the mother for the third.
3. Immigration - Promising to build a wall with Mexico and deport convicted felons. No path to citizenship included.
4. Military Spending - DoD is funded for 4 years at 2% above inflation.
5. Fracking & LNG - Promise to expand Fracking leases on federal lands and approve and speed up development of LNG export facilities.
6. Nuclear Power - Promise to work with the DOE to speed up approval and construction of new Nuclear power plants.
7. School Choice - Agree to a federal law that ties school funding to the child and the parents get to choose what school to send their child to with it. (Assume there is an income cap at $400k).
8. Gun Control - Promising a Federal law ensures concealed carry reciprocity between all states and territories and no additional gun control initiatives.
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What's your choice?

CaptUSMCNole · Oct 23, 2024 at 7:52 PM

Trickster said: ↑

What's your choice?
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I'd probably be willing to pull the lever for Harris if she committed to 1, 3, and 6. I've previously said that if I could be assured that Alito and Thomas will be alive and on the Court in Jan '29 and Republican control the Senate, I would probably be OK with voting for Harris.

slocala · Oct 23, 2024 at 10:22 PM

CaptUSMCNole said: ↑

6. Nuclear Power - Promise to work with the DOE to speed up approval and construction of new Nuclear power plants.
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looks like the CAA 2024 is working… DOE / OCED $900m for gen III small nuclear… apps and concept papers due in Jan 2025.

DOE to Award $900M to Build GEN III+ Small Nuclear Reactors

l_boy · Oct 23, 2024 at 10:54 PM

Emmitto said: ↑

She could prolly net 2-3 points just by shitting all over absurd lefty ideas like prisoner transgender surgeries. Where are those votets gonna go? Cornell West? Stay home? That would be pretty stupid. Just hope Trump’s storm troopers never make it to you? Good luck!

R’s, once again, outflank D’s in every battle. Fuentes stomps around, declares “war” on Trump and threatens to withhold the groyper vote until they hear the literal white nationalist words. All a fraud. After Trump just ignores him and continues with the dog whistles, Fuentes finds a way to “end” the war, just in time! Trump knows these guys have no alternative.

Meanwhile Harris mealy mouths a “follow the law” response. Locks up the vote that has no other option, loses voters on the margin who don’t like fascists but also fear things that used to be safely hidden from view.

She is on the path to a Hillary repeat, winning the popular vote easily while losing the EC on those very margins D’s work so hard to lose.
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The difference is Ds are more willing to self immolate on principle and do something like vote for Jill Stein. You actually have Muslims in MI who may vote for Trump - the Muslim ban - Pro Israel guy, in order to punish Kamala for Biden’s equivocated support for Israel.

Emmitto · Oct 23, 2024 at 11:06 PM

l_boy said: ↑

The difference is Ds are more willing to self immolate on principle and do something like vote for Jill Stein. You actually have Muslims in MI who may vote for Trump - the Muslim ban - Pro Israel guy, in order to punish Kamala for Biden’s equivocated support for Israel.
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Yes, agreed, and I am lumping them in under the same “D” category.

When your platform is so bad/wishy washy that you will likely lose to Donald Trump TWICE, perhaps you should try something different.

The flammable religious nuts can vote for someone who makes up stories about their evil nature and be replaced with people who just want a little sanity, IMO.

Harris didn’t even have to do all the nuttiness to win the primaries. She had a golden opportunity to actually tell the babies that mama’s home, clean your room or move out. Instead she’s running like she’s trying to win primary votes in a state she’ll lose by 20 points once the game starts.

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