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What do You Think of Kamala Harris, and why?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gatorjo, Jul 3, 2024.

  1. rtgator

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    Trump exercising his freedom to NOT say or do a damn thing as his brownshirts sacked the Capitol and threatened his VP and members of Congress for several hours on Jan 6 . . . .

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    I give you groups repeatedly committing violence and murder and you give me a lone wolf. Again, you are FOS.

    You are as childish as a kindergartner, you and Jo, which is why I don't respond to either of you most of the time.
     
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  4. rtgator

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    Of course, I read it. I'm fine with sources that are factual and even-handed.

    Yes, violent anarchists are a serious problem, particularly in Portland.

    But right-wing extremists are even more violent and a bigger threat to this nation. The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) compiled data that documented that right-wing extremists accounted for 74% of the murders committed due to ideology over a 10 year period. (Before you launch a knee-jerk attack on the source, read the footnotes in the lower right. They point out that right-wing sources agreed with this finding.) Left-wing murders accounted for about 2%.

    As stated previously, it has been well documented that right-wing extremists have infiltrated peaceful protests and then broke windows, started fires and began looting to turn the protests violent and make BLM look bad.

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  5. gatorjo

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    I hope you are at least getting paid to lie for Drumfph.

    Comparing a riot he incited (and WATCHED, in a dereliction of his duty and oath) through his repeated lies and criminal conspiracy....to hoodlums which nobody defends....

    ....is just you repeating out the same Trumpy lies and blather.

    Nobody has ever believed that nonsense, and they still don't now. (Except Trumpy rubes)

    Done replying to you, you may carry on with your lying.
     
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  6. rtgator

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    "I give you groups repeatedly committing violence and murder and you give me a lone wolf. Again, you are FOS."

    Made up BS. I've posted several examples plus an article in which the Trump administration acknowledged the role white supremacists played inciting violence at the BLM protests plus ADL data documenting that right-wing extremists account for 74% of extremist murders.

    "You are as childish as a kindergartner, you and Jo, which is why I don't respond to either of you most of the time."

    One things for sure. We always know when we're getting the best of Trumpers. That's when they start with the personal insults. Just like Dear Leader Trump.
     
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  7. AgingGator

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    I dont know what you’re nitpicking at. You know darn good and well what the party elite did to Bernie (I can’t fault them) and you know know darn good and well that Kamala is their best/only option. I’m open to listening if you disagree, but I was mostly parroting what you were saying about her
     
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    I suppose you think he helped the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor too, don't you Jo?
     
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  9. l_boy

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    Why the dislike from @Trickster?
     
  10. gator_lawyer

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    Okay, I can explain. Here's what I took issue with:
    Bernie lost in 2016 because he did poorly in the Southern states. Hillary did far better with people of color in the Democratic base. Bernie ran into the same issue against Biden. Biden ran away with South Carolina, prompting the uncompetitive candidates to drop out, and their center-left support coalesced around Biden.
    I don't consider Kamala not being President to have anything to do with confidence. Biden hasn't yet dropped out. And confirming a new VP would require the Republican-controlled House to approve. I doubt the Democrats want to risk Mike Johnson being one heartbeat from the presidency.
     
  11. rtgator

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    I did NOT make anything up. I verified Wolfe's white supremacist connection a couple years ago. Maybe that was changed. I'll check it out again and retract the Wolfe meme if necessary.

    Meanwhile, the last two paragraphs in the following article confirm that right-wing extremists had, in fact, "infiltrated the protests".

    "And Michael Solomon and Benjamin Teeter -- two members of the extremist group "Boogaloo Bois" that infiltrated the protests -- have pleaded guilty to a plot to help a terrorist group."

    "A third Boogaloo Boy - Ivan Hunter - is charged with riot for shooting into the 3rd Precinct. His case is still active."


    St. Paul man sentenced, fined $12 million in Minneapolis Third Precinct fire | kare11.com
     
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  12. gatorjo

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    Haha - that's funny!! Good one!!

    I think he did what multiple people, including members of his own Administration, say that he did. Which is watch that riot without doing anything to stop it. I even posted an article from Reuters which said as much!!

    You should read that article, then you'd know something about this and not just be posting meaningless fact-free Trumpy blather. It's fun to be informed!
     
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    You seem to also be having fun being misinformed.
     
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    That article also mentions nothing about white supremacist motives. In fact, he seems to keep odd company for a white supremacist???

    Bryce Michael Williams Archives - Southern Minnesota News

    Three years in prison for man who helped start fire at Mpls. police precinct
     
  15. gatorjo

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    Please explain.

    Should be funny. :)
     
  16. rtgator

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    "That article also mentions nothing about white supremacist motives."

    Not for Wolfe. But it absolutely does establish in the last two paragraphs that three right-wing extremist boogaloo bois had "infiltrated the protests".
     
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    Here's another boogaloo bois extremist linked to the Minneapolis protests. And this article is about him pleading GUILTY a year later.

    "A Texas man who says he is affiliated the anti-government “boogaloo” movement pleaded guilty Thursday to opening fire on a Minneapolis police station last year during civil unrest over the death of George Floyd."

    "Ivan Harrison Hunter, a self-proclaimed member of the “boogaloo bois,” is accused of firing 13 rounds from a semi-automatic assault-style rifle on the Third Precinct police station while protesters were inside the building."


    Texas man in 'boogaloo' movement pleads guilty to firing at police station during Floyd protest
     
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  18. AgingGator

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    Well that’s all well and good but your post showed a picture of Mr. Wolfe and said he was a white supremacist. Apparently that is not true. You should retract your slanderous claim.
     
  19. rtgator

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    Give me a break. I already said about 5 posts ago that I would delete the meme if I can't confirm it. (I've deleted it for now.)

    Meanwhile, while looking for that confirmation, I've identified four right-wing extremist boogaloo bois that were charged with violence at the Minneapolis protests (3 pled guilty). This proves my point that right-wing extremists were instigating a lot of the violence at BLM protests.

    From Wikipedia:

    The boogaloo movement, whose adherents are often referred to as boogaloo boys or boogaloo bois,[3] is a loosely organized far-right anti-government extremist movement in the United States.[4][5][6][7][8][9] It has also been described as a militia.[10][11][12] Adherents say they are preparing for, or seek to incite, a second American Civil War or second American Revolution which they call "the boogaloo" or "the boog".[13][14]

    Boogaloo movement - Wikipedia
     
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