Well, Van Jones finally said out load what we all knew

6.1% decrease from 2021 to 2022 and 12.7% decrease from 2022 to 2023 (according to Jeff Asher's data). And, again, this is after a constant decline from the early 90s.

 

But, again, you have to pretty much cherry pick a time period out to find it "increasing." It has been falling in both the long- and short-term. You have to basically select the years in which it was lowest as a baseline rather than either year-over-year numbers or longer term trends.

 

It does seem that progressives/liberals only harp on the Ahmaud Arbery / George Floyd type cases. Without the racist axe to grind they tend to lose interest. Not sure why, maybe because they feel like they can make a difference on one of them but not the other.

 

Yes, over a longer period, the rate is down. And over a shorter period.

 

Agreed.

Not a hot take, but my frustrations with the far left… Specially, black-on-black murder is not a “political affiliation problem”. It is a conscious decision by society at large to accept that non-blacks are not allowed to help blacks with solutions unless it fits a black devised “partnering” solution.

(see Killer Mike’s ideas)

The cult of media has turned to punish the “white savior” — thus the dilemma of suburban progressives as they “white-flight” to the exits.

 

Here is the murder rate by year (as collected by Jeff Asher):



How 2023's Murder Decline Compares to Other Declines

 

I think you are taking numbers to manipulate a narrative.

Now I do not know this and I have not done the research. But how much do you want to bet the murder “rates” in the states won by trump you refer to are almost singularly driven by democrat led large cities in said states? I am sure there is a pub led city out there with bad numbers. But…

 

I think money trickles down from the top and pools in the area where the state has the biggest reservoir. My guess is that the red states have a blue tarp over the city as you described. The reservoir is located in the gated communities in the suburb.

 

I think this is looking at total numbers rather than rates. I'm not sure your link to Pew is inconsistent with what mdgator is saying. From your link:

While 2021 saw the highest total number of gun deaths in the U.S., this statistic does not take into account the nation’s growing population. On a per capita basis, there were 14.6 gun deaths per 100,000 people in 2021 – the highest rate since the early 1990s, but still well below the peak of 16.3 gun deaths per 100,000 people in 1974.

 

It should be noted that this is not the rate of murder but rather the "age-adjusted" rate of murder with guns only. I was focusing in on the murder rate, not the age-adjusted gun murder rate. I do suspect that more murder is being done with guns as guns become more easily obtainable and more readily available to solve petty disputes.