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Water Wars - Mexico

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Jun 16, 2022.

  1. littlebluelw

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    What is your solution for GSL? Vote Democrat?
     
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  2. slocala

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    Example of Republican’t mindset. Can’t stop it and risk the economy, so move to the next place like a swarm of locust.
     
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  3. slocala

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    Drastic water conservation. Completely change the water usage and curtail growth. Yes, vote for someone who gives a crap about the constituents and their health.
     
  4. littlebluelw

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    I dont live there so I guess the Dem leadership is all in on your ideas. Or youre just sucked into the partisanship that makes you think one party cares more than the other about such things.
     
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  5. slocala

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    No doubt. I am partisan on the environment. Republicans left Teddy Roosevelt and me long ago.

    These are the ideas from scientists.

    SLC mayor is a Dem. She’s pleading for water conservation.

    Cox is goofing around doing nothing. Used pandemic money from the Fed.

    Yes, Utah got ‘lackadaisical’ about water, Gov. Spencer Cox concedes. Here’s why he remains hopeful.
     
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  6. homer

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    The great salt lake has been shrinking since 1847. As have all salt lakes globally. The main culprit was believed to be global warming. What scientists have found out is the inflow from streams has been greatly reduced due to human water consumption prior to reaching the lake. Up to 3.3 trillion liters of water is diverted from the streams that feed into the lake. Scientists say the lake needs a 24% to 29% increase in water inflow to maintain its health and stability.

    With the population of Utah expected to double by 2050 how will there be enough water for people, agriculture, and the lake and other bodies of water?

    Lastly, to place the blame on republicans is shortsighted.

    Even though this 2017 article is 5 years old it pretty much hits the nail on the head. The chickens have come home to roost.

    Science | AAAS
     
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  7. G8trGr8t

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    it isn't a partisan issue. people do not want to pay the price for clean water. they will pay more for cell phone service than clean water.
     
  8. G8trGr8t

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    desal, changes to ag consumption. you don't have to live on the ocean to use desal. both cost $$
     
  9. slocala

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    Well, if it isn’t partisan… let’s play it out and see how the Republican leadership manages this. I’m fairly sure they will still run the state for decades.
     
  10. G8trGr8t

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    how about California. It is run by democrats and having same problems
     
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  11. slocala

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    Exactly. We’ll be able to see which state comes up with a solution and executes.
     
  12. OklahomaGator

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    I don't think that is true. I remember there was a large "castle" built near the lake and it got surrounded by water at one point in the 80's. I did find this as well.

    When was the Great Salt Lake at its highest level?

    Its surface area has varied from about 2,400 square miles (6,200 square km) at its highest levels in 1873 and the mid-1980s to about 950 square miles (2,460 square km) at its lowest level in 1963.

    So the GSL has been fluctuating quite significantly in the last 60 years, from the lowest in 63 to the highest in the 80's back to where it is today.
     
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  13. homer

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    There are fluctuations. I’m repeating what the article based on scientists studies have found. They said it’s been declining since 1847.

    I’m not a scientist nor rocket surgeon so I have to read and try to understand what’s science and what’s opinion or BS.
     
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  14. OklahomaGator

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    I found a picture of that "castle" I mentioned earlier.

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  15. BLING

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    It’s Gods will.
     
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  16. phatGator

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    Years ago an article in The Economist magazine pondered how many people out west realize the development of the west was possible through water projects paid for by the largesse of eastern taxpayers.
     
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  17. Crusher

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    Well 50 years ago Scientists weren't talking about Global warming, it was the coming new Ice Age that was all the rage. But for some folks like John Wesley Powell the West's water issues were foreseeable almost 150 years ago.
     
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    Political power and water resources was the basis of the movie Chinatown made in the 1970s and set in the 1930s. Water has been an issue in California since the first developments.
     
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  20. Trickster

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    You’re right. I was off a couple decades. :eek::eek: Still, it was long enough ago, don’t you think, to have started doing some about it? But that’s just the way we humans are. Plus, there are always the economic considerations.
     
  21. Gatorhead

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    Hi Crusher, actually the alarm was rung back in 1959 by a scientist that measured an alarming trend of rising CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere, this gentleman ran a small weather station at the top of Kilauea back then and began reporting his concerns in 59. I can't link the article at the moment but it is well documented.