Was Derek Chauvin Wrongly Imprisoned?

Did you actually read that trash article you cited to?

"Then, Minnesota attorney general, Marxist Keith Ellison, stepped in to charge the officers."

"The case against J. Alexander Kueng, Thomas Kiernan Lane, and Tou Thao was political. They were the human sacrifices to the violent, criminal mob."

Those are red flags that you are reading the rantings of some fringe lunatic, but this is where it falls apart.:

"Before meeting with the State, Dr. Baker told the defendant and his lawyers that “[t]he autopsy revealed no physical evidence suggesting that Mr. Floyd died of asphyxiation. Mr. Floyd did not exhibit signs of petechiae, damage to his airways or thyroid, brain bleeding, bone injuries, or internal bruising.”

The implication here is that defense lawyers were told before trial that Floyd died of natural or accidental causes, not a homicide at the hands of Officer Chauvin. Had that actually happened, every defense lawyer would have withdrawn from the case to become a defense witness to impeach Dr. Baker's "revised" trial testimony. I've been in situations where I have spoken to a witness who later was going to testify differently. The remedy is clear. The fact that none of Chauvin's lawyers became defense witnesses is telling.

Have you ever seen anyone experiencing a drug overdose? A fentanyl overdose? I have. That is NOT what was going on with Floyd immediately prior to his death and forensic witnesses testified to that effect.

You bought into this right wing conspiracy garbage which is fine. We knew you people were out there, otherwise Tucker Carlson would have been fired years ago. Just don't expect, however, that normal people are going to accept this crap as being truthful.

 

Kind of an ironic post, considering your article attempts to discredit Dr. Baker based entirely on 3rd party testimony.

Dr. Baker testified he was not coerced, his autopsy report included these items on physical/structural damage all along, and yet he stood by his conclusion of homicide. That’s not a mere little detail. That makes this “bombshell” testimony bordering on irrelevant to that of Dr. Baker.

While we are on the subject of logical fallacies, these little misdirections on the part of your “fake newz” site is what we call omission of fact. Sweet headline though.

 

How would you vote on Mr Floyd? I didn’t decide he was unproductive. He proved it by living his life the way he did.

 

Chauvin had every opportunity in the world to not have this happen. How many times does a handcuffed man need to say “I can’t breathe” as you have your knee baring down on the back of his neck? Even if he thought Floyd was lying, you take chance out of the equation and make sure he has access to oxygen. Chauvin had a long history of abuse of suspects. I said manslaughter at the very least, but I’m leaning more towards murder two. As a law enforcement officer, the safety of your suspect is just as important as the arrest, once suspect is restrained. (Cuffed and lying flat on the ground) This situation was brutal and ugly and made good cops job a lot harder by sewing distrust in law enforcement among the public. Chauvin deserved prison for many years.

 

Work on your reading comprehension a little more. Instead of responding to what you wish I had said, try reading the actual words.

 

I rewatched the bodycam footage today. Floyd complicated the situation completely on his own up to the point they had him on the ground.

After that....Chauvin owns every bit of blame. Just mind boggling to me that they ignored his change of alertness and showed no regard for him even if the motivation was his own self preservation. He has no one to blame but himself. I was initially against the idea of murder2 but now believe he was properly charged and convicted. I often extend a lot of leeway and empathy for cops (i.e. the wendys shooting in atlanta) however Chauvin doesn't fall into that category in my opinion. Not at all.

 

An abusive cop whose behavior finally caught up to him. They got this one right. Once a man is cuffed behind his back and lying flat on the ground, what can he really do? Nothing justifies a knee to the neck as the man pleads he can’t breathe, after he’s been cuffed and taken down. There is no rehabbing Derek Chauvin. He’s a prick who’s dealings finally caught up with him.

 

One of the very few times that we are in absolute agreement.

 

Good. Chauvin defenders can eat it.

 

So, you, in effect, are okay with the death penalty for George Floyd’s prior crimes?

 

I tend to mostly agree.

I don't think questions about the case are unwarranted, but I think there's much lower hanging fruit, and I don't think the Chauvin conviction was unreasonable. Some people just don't think it was airtight based on testimony regarding the autopsy.

To me, there's different levels to these stories that spark media outrage. There's the Michael Brown's where the guy killed was completely in the wrong, and the media outrage was completely unjustified. There's the Ahmaud Arbery's where the killing looked both wrong and racially motivated. Then there's the Trayvon Martin's and the George Floyd's that involve some sort of gray area. In Trayvon Martin's case, it's whether Zimmerman acted in self defense... whereas in George Floyd's, it's whether Chauvin caused his death and whether the killing was racially motivated. Both Zimmerman and Chauvin did SOMETHING that was stupid on the days of these respective deaths. Did those "stupid things" amount to murder? Tough to say.

I see reasonable arguments both ways, but I think that includes the verdict in those cases. Both attorneys in the Chauvin case seemed to have a bunch of material to work with. On one end you have the amount of time Chauvin was on top of Floyd, on the other you have the fact that Floyd was saying that he couldn't breathe before he even got to the ground. Basically comes down to how a jury views "beyond a reasonable doubt" to me.

 

In addition and IIRC, there was a female first responder passerby (no uniform) who yelled at Chauvin that Floyd was in physical peril.

 

This is such a disappointing result for right wingers.

 

Ex-officer Derek Chauvin, convicted in George Floyd's killing, stabbed in prison, AP source says

Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer convicted of murdering George Floyd, was stabbed by another inmate and seriously injured Friday at a federal prison in Arizona, a person familiar with the matter told The Associated Press.

The attack happened at the Federal Correctional Institution, Tucson, a medium-security prison that has been plagued by security lapses and staffing shortages. The person was not authorized to publicly discuss details of the attack and spoke to the AP on the condition of anonymity.

The Bureau of Prisons confirmed that an incarcerated person was assaulted at FCI Tucson at around 12:30 p.m. local time Friday. In a statement, the agency said responding employees contained the incident and performed “life-saving measures” before the inmate, who it did not name, was taken to a hospital for further treatment and evaluation.