War in Ukraine

This would matter if Russia wasn't ok with a war of attrition. They are. And I haven't seen anyone stating Russia has 10x the casualties as Ukraine. This thinking is the result of buying hype and propaganda. Not to mention that Russia has been sending convicts in to accomplish two things - get rid of convicts and get rid of all Ukraine's experienced soldiers - before sending in their actual soldiers.

Soaring Death Toll Gives Grim Insight Into Russian Tactics

Remember, Russia, and a vast majority of the world, don't live in our little bubble of niceness where all tactics must be first kind and inclusive and second effective.

Your optimism is nice though.

 

New York Times aka Russian bot.

 

Sure thing comrade You know better than Austin, Mattis, Miley and McMaster et al. Your’e not an effective bot, but that’s par for the course.

 

Yahoo is part of the Yahoo family of brands

All 500 original members of a Ukrainian battalion were killed or wounded in fighting with Russia, commander says

 

Anyone who disagrees with the party is a bot, got it.

 

Nah you’re angling for what you think is a subtle troll. It isn’t…

 

I was being satirical. But yes, around these parts, if you mention anything that suggests Ukrainian defeat, you work for the Kremlin.

 

No, I don’t think that’s remotely realistic even if we went to war. And what I “hope” has nothing to do with anything. Hope as a strategy explains several of our country’s dumb national security decisions in the past few years. I am, however, pointing out (as I have several times in the past) that any war crimes charges against Putin or any other member of his regime mean precisely nothing if Russia is not defeated. So people can clap about the charges if they want, but the only way he would ever realistically see the inside of The Hague is if he’s overthrown and his own people offer him up, as what happened with Milosevic. And even that is not a serious scenario to consider given he would be far more likely to be killed by his own people than handed over. So the move is as close to purely symbolic as such things get. And I’m far more concerned with seeing Russia defeated than with Putin held accountable by The Hague.

 

You might be right in the end, but nothing in war is 100%. Were you the one guy in the world who thought Ukraine could hold out on its own for a year with material support only? Were you the one guy who thought Russia would fail to achieve air superiority? Were you the only guy who thought Ukraine could actually conduct two successful counteroffensives? If so, you are indeed a military genius, and I would like to hear more on how this is going to play out in your opinion.

 

Gotcha. Yes I agree with all of that. Just don’t see the defeat happening, but sure, anything is possible in war.

 

Do you believe this or just trying to post crap on purpose?

 

So what do you suggest? Just let them have it because they want it? What else should we let them have because they want it and have such overwhelming, irresistible force at their disposal?

 

That is true. No serious observer of this conflict could conclude that Russia has better equipment. Want to argue more people? Indisputable. Want to argue that they are more resilient to casualties than the West? Surely. Want to argue that their people are already so miserable that sanctions can do almost nothing to move the meter? I’ll buy that. Want to argue that Russia can just sit on its gains until the West grows war fatigued from its collective couch and turns off the material assistance? Looks progressively likely.

But if you want to argue that Russia has superior equipment; better trained personnel; and/or higher proficiency in logistics, tactics, operational design, or strategy, then you simply have not been paying attention, are willfully deceiving yourself, or are straight up propagating for Russia. Before the war started, there might have been cause to believe otherwise, but the war has revealed glaring Russian shortfalls (perhaps, as I’ve argued, temporary and transitory) in these performance areas. Only Western forbearance or irrational fear of nuclear escalation (depending on one’s perspective) has prevented the complete annihilation of Russian forces in Ukraine.

 

Bloody their nose (done), make a settlement, make Putin think he won. Let people return to their lives. Putin will croak within a few years. Do everything you can to make sure an American friendly leader assumes his position when he does. (Probably asking for too much)

Not really, if Russia are sending in their prison inmates with minimal training to take out the best Ukraine has to offer so they can easily steamroll Ukraine later this year. It stands to reason they’re likely holding back their best assets at the same time. Why would you allow soldiers with minimal training to man your best assets in battlefield? There is plenty of evidence to suggest Russia has been holding back their best hardware.

 

We few. We happy few.

 

The Russian tropes and stereotypes are prodigious.

 

Americans bored with losing to Russia, stealing themselves for defeat vs China ...

60 Percent Of Americans Say China A Bigger Threat Than Russia: Poll | ZeroHedge

 

Impressive recital of russian talking points. Smdh

 

Or the MAGA-Putinites here, like MJT, Tucker, DeSantis and our own resident DD, do the same.