Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. GatorJMDZ

    GatorJMDZ gatorjack VIP Member

    24,419
    2,513
    1,868
    Apr 3, 2007
    Only when reacting to stupid posts.
     
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2023
    • Funny Funny x 1
  2. apkgator

    apkgator GC Hall of Fame

    10,225
    1,960
    3,218
    Apr 3, 2007
    It will be ok, I'm sure lots of people struggle to make logical analogies. Now most of them would refrain from trying to do so in an 800 page thread....but good for you being so brave.
    FYI, if the US were an "active participant" the actions of both sides in this incident would be dramatically different. Surely you realize that?
     
  3. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    30,813
    11,890
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    are we the invaders or defenders in the war.

    are we committing war crimes or trying to defend our families?

    these things matter, wouldn't you agree?

    we will defend international airspace and China, and Russia, need to understand that. Perhaps we need some raptors to fly that route to confirm access rights.
     
  4. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    15,645
    1,155
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Yes, I do. The lead story would shift to the US getting waxed instead of Ukraine.
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
  5. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

    10,853
    1,852
    3,128
    Jan 5, 2010
    Maine
    Nothing sounds quite like an 8...0...8 (page)
     
  6. apkgator

    apkgator GC Hall of Fame

    10,225
    1,960
    3,218
    Apr 3, 2007
    Oh, you do realize the US isn't an active participant. Great!
    But wait, in post 16125 you specifically stated the US is an active participant. Now I'm concerned you have fallen while standing on your food, hit your head on those binoculars, and are posting in a confused state...possibly with a concussion. That explains this afternoon's posts, you're on your own for the previous 12 months.
     
    • Funny Funny x 5
  7. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

    15,103
    13,179
    1,853
    Apr 8, 2007
    now just add in a balcony reference:D
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  8. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    15,645
    1,155
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    You’re really fixated on my typo. There’s a name for people like you. But I’m afraid you might invoke Godwin’s Law. In any case, the guy on the roof is an active participant. And there’s a reason why he prefers the safety of a rooftop on the other block.
     
  9. VAg8r1

    VAg8r1 GC Hall of Fame

    20,233
    1,645
    1,763
    Apr 8, 2007
  10. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    15,645
    1,155
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    ^ Now we know what the “Mad” in “Mad Dog” means.
     
  11. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    30,813
    11,890
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    Russian agents planning on sabotaging train lines in Poland to slow down arms shipments to Ukraine have been caught. Would this be tantamount to an attack on NATO if succesfully carried out by others?

    Russian plot to sabotage Poland's train lines is uncovered

    A Russian plot to sabotage Poland's train lines in a bid to stop the country delivering arms to Ukraine has been uncovered, with six suspected foreign agents arrested. According to news outlet RMF FM, the 'foreigners from across our eastern border' were detained by Poland's Internal Security Agency 'on suspicion of working on behalf of the Russian special services.' The six agents – who are thought to be from Belarus – were seized after intelligence officers from Poland’s ABW found hidden cameras recording important railway routes for transferring weapons and ammo to Ukraine.

    They are suspected of trying to sabotage the lines to disrupt Kyiv 's war effort. Poland's special forces minister said an official statement would be given tomorrow. The arrests come just weeks after the minster responsible for the country's special services revealed that nine other people suspected of collaborating with the Russian and Belarusian services had also been detained in recent months. Stanislaw Zaryn also warned of Russia's increasingly aggressive intelligence activities following Poland's expulsion last year of 45 Russian diplomats accused of being spies. 'Russia is looking for new opportunities to act against Poland,' he said. 'We are dealing with attempts to obtain sensitive information, including photographing credit cards or browsing private telephones of Poles. All this is used to collect data on what is happening in Poland and what movements our troops are making.' He added: 'The Russians use so-called soft blackmail, trying to intimidate the interrogated people.'
     
  12. apkgator

    apkgator GC Hall of Fame

    10,225
    1,960
    3,218
    Apr 3, 2007
    Uh oh, now you seem to be flipping yet again to the active participant theme....and just when we had you acknowledging that was a false statement. I fear you have climbed onto a box of Count Chocula and have lost your bearings yet again.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  13. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    15,645
    1,155
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Where did I imply that US was anything other than an active participant ?
     
  14. apkgator

    apkgator GC Hall of Fame

    10,225
    1,960
    3,218
    Apr 3, 2007
    Uh post 16144 says hello....I know that was a long time in your head
     
  15. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    15,645
    1,155
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    You do know that the US is losing another war to Russia, don’t you ? Vietnam, Syria, Afghanistan, now Ukraine ? Seems like we’d get the message some day.
     
  16. uftaipan

    uftaipan GC Hall of Fame

    8,676
    2,013
    1,483
    May 31, 2007
    Fresno, CA
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  17. uftaipan

    uftaipan GC Hall of Fame

    8,676
    2,013
    1,483
    May 31, 2007
    Fresno, CA
    I don’t know if a nation could realistically invoke Article V over this, but it could be tantamount to a Zimmerman Telegram that pulls some people off the fence who want us to mind our own business and take some wind away from the people loudly proclaiming Russian righteousness in reconquering its sovereign soil that has been hijacked by Nazis or whatever.
     
  18. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

    15,103
    13,179
    1,853
    Apr 8, 2007
    I wouldn't surprised if Vlad has peeps here in the US who are planning some shit too.
     
  19. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    15,645
    1,155
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Like they threw the 2016 election with $400 in Facebook ads ?
     
  20. apkgator

    apkgator GC Hall of Fame

    10,225
    1,960
    3,218
    Apr 3, 2007
    Nice pivot to an entirely different argument, understandable since you had nothing to stand on with the other conversation (except of course the food thing)