This may be big coming as Russia is reaching its nadir in Ukraine and reports that they are ready to sue for peace. Maybe they hold on to Crimea and Ukraine agrees only to take t back when Russia collapses again in a few years. Top US and Russian diplomats meet on sidelines of G20 for first time since Ukraine invasion
I hope you’re right, but I’m not seeing any evidence of Russia reaching its nadir. We should be prepared for things to get worse for Ukraine.
More likely G20 leaders see the writing on the wall. Ukraine on life support and NATO resolve fraying.
This post shows a fundamental misunderstanding of regime change, but it’s not surprising. In democracies, regimes don’t change. We have this thing called elections. People vote for their candidate and the winning candidate serves for a limited period of time. In your authoritarian choice of world order, regime change comes differently, usually through death of one sort of the other.
In Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson and Zaporozhye people had something like elections. Problem is the results are being rejected by crazy MAGA-type election deniers like yourself.
Obviously not what you intended, the appropriate analogy is that between George W. Bush and Vladimir Putin. In both cases they decided to launch a war of choice based on a false narrative.
You have beautifully placed The Russian active measures into context— particularly the plans and people in place prior to and including Brexit, the election in 2016 here and various elections in Europe.
"China and Russia refused to sign the G20 resolution demanding the withdrawal of Russian troops from the territory of Ukraine , - Deutsche Welle. The rest of the G20 participants supported the summit's final statement calling for a "complete and unconditional withdrawal" of Russian troops." Interesting in that China is now more fully onside with Russia openly. Can we fight two wars ?
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Which, if I understand correctly, wad I heard a radio interview just now that advised the meeting was hardly about Russia suing for peace and more that Blinken aired U.S. grievance's, while Russia's ambassador parroted the regular Kremlin propoganda, and it all led up to a big nothing burger. Regrettably I can't post the source. I hope your post is correct but I sincerely doubt it. Regarding the battlefront the struggle for Bakhmut has become an epic confrontation. A modern day Stalingrad albeit at a smaller level. One thing seems to be certain, Russia is slowly closing the vice, and thats direct from Ukranian sources. I worry that Bakhmut, while not worth a damn strategically, now has great meaning psychologically to the war effort on both sides. I just hope that the Ukranians continue to make Russian ground forces pay a heavy price in blood while falling back, when necessary, to more defensive positions that make the Russian military misarable. What I hope DOES NOT happen is Ukraine throws men and material into the breech, they get cut off and have to surrender. That would be bad news for most posters here.
A Bakhmut encirclement/collapse would be bad news for Ukrainian troops. But why would most posters on this thread care ? To the last Ukrainian and all that ?
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That would only be bad news for the sane posters. The insane ones would love it. Bakhmut is a relatively small (but very intense) part of the war. There is plenty of fighting going on in other places. Ukraine is already talking about retreating from the city, even though they don't want to. Ukraine is still having great success in other battles, like Vuhledar. And they know that things will get much better once the western tanks arrive. There is no reason to cling to Bakhmut if they are losing an excessive number of soldiers there. Russia is allegedly losing massive numbers of tanks in the fighting going on right now, and their lone factory can't keep up. They are afraid to use their most modern tank in battle, preferring to take 1960's tanks out of mothballs. I'm sure their loss of soldiers is much larger. Every day that the war drags on, the percentage of experienced soldiers for Russia gets smaller and smaller, and the percentage of inexperienced conscripts goes up. That indicates that Russia will have a harder time being successful, unless Ukraine just runs out of soldiers. I don't see that happening anytime soon.
