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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. homer

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    Angry beavers are everywhere. Lol
     
  2. duggers_dad

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    Convicts reportedly involved in an enterprise which express purpose is to kill people.

    OUTRAGE!!!
     
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    Yeah, but choice do they have, really? The Russians need to get this war to looking like something they can sell as “glorious victory for Putin and Mother Russia.” If that takes emptying out the prisons now and worrying about the cost later, then so be it.
     
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    Yep. Glad to know the Beavers aren’t just out to embarrass the Gators.
     
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    Ukraine's airforce in May: "We shot down an X-22."

    Ukraine 48 hours ago: "The Russians targeted an apartment building."

    Arestovych: "Nah actually that one was on us."

    Ukraine's airforce today: "We lack the means to shoot down X-22."

    Tangled in a web of lies.
     
  7. mdgator05

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    This you?

    Amazing how the Russian cheerleader who tried to claim Russia didn't care about territory suddenly cares about territory the first time they take any. After months of claiming that they didn't care about territory as they lost much more territory.
     
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    I’ve consistently maintained that territory will take care of itself. Also, what’s wrong with being a Russian cheerleader ?
     
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  11. VAg8r1

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    Vlad would agree.
     
  12. duggers_dad

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    D’uh! But for me the Nazi thing is an emotive talking point, for Russia, just as it is for leftists in the US. The larger picture is that American hegemony is being challenged and likely broken. Russia and China are boiling the frog.
     
  13. G8trGr8t

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    Not exactly, but close.UK to send tanks and other mobile artillery pieces. This is a big tech upgrade to existing which, together with the upgraded czech tanks, will move the needle if properly deployed.

    https://www.npr.org/2023/01/14/1149246993/uk-tanks-ukraine-russia-kyiv

    Sunak made the pledge to provide Challenger 2 tanks and other artillery systems after speaking to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Saturday, the British leader's Downing Street office said in a statement.

    It didn't say when the tanks would be delivered or how many. British media have reported that four British Army Challenger 2 main battle tanks will be sent to Eastern Europe immediately, with eight more to follow shortly after, without citing sources.
     
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    Earlier this month, France said it would send AMX-10 RC armored combat vehicles to Ukraine, designated "light tanks" in French. The U.S. and Germany announced the same week that they would send Bradley fighting vehicles and Marder armored personnel carriers, respectively, for the first time
     
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    It appears that Ukrainian defense forces will be technically superior in time for a spring offensive. I can only hope they are integrating all of this into a single command and not just throwing it out there as independent pieces wjen training is complete.
     
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    Beaver whisperer, at your service.:devil:
     
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    NATO has no off-ramp. Working overtime to prolong Ukraine’s misery.
     
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    Poland PM is putting conditions on it that other countries must also provide the leopard tanks. Talks are ongoing to secure that agreement with other, unnamed countries. Securing German permission is a big step in the right direction though

    Poland to send Leopard tanks to Ukraine, if others do, too | AP News

    LVIV, Ukraine (AP) — Poland has decided to send a company of Leopard tanks to help neighboring Ukraine in the war with invading Russia, President Andrzej Duda said Wednesday.

    But Duda, on a visit to Lviv, said that the move would be possible only as an element in a larger international coalition of tank aid to Kyiv.

    Poland’s leaders have been indicating that they were in talks with other countries over a potential international coalition that would send the German-made Leopard tanks to Ukraine. They haven’t named the countries.

    Within this potential international coalition, “we have taken the decision to contribute a first package of tanks, a company of Leopard tanks, which, I hope, together with other companies of Leopard and other tanks that will be offered by other countries will .... be able to strengthen Ukraine’s defense,” Duda told a news conference in Lviv.

    Explainer-West Mulls Sending German Leopard 2 Tanks to Ukraine (usnews.com)
    Some 20 nations operate the Leopard 2. This means several nations could each chip in some of their tanks to support Ukraine. This would also make it easier for Ukraine to manage maintenance and crew training.

    Nations operating the Leopard include Canada, Denmark, Finland, Netherlands, Norway, Austria, Poland, Spain, Sweden and Turkey.
     
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    Switzerland Moves to Soften Restrictive Arms Export Law



    Switzerland has started working on a reform to allow some countries to export Swiss-made ammunition to Ukraine, after international criticism of its restrictive arms export law, the NZZ am Sonntag newspaper reported.



    It’s the first substantial move to ease a restrictive law shaped by Switzerland’s tradition of neutrality in international affairs. Germany and Spain have criticized the Swiss for blocking ammunition shipments to Ukraine.
     
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