War in Ukraine

• 320 missiles in a day: Russia targets short-range ballistic missiles at Ukraine; what is the result? - WION - Mar 2, 2022
• Russia running short on guided missiles, firing indiscriminately - Ukraine - Jerusalem Post - March 17, 2022
• Russia Running Out of Precision Munitions in Ukraine War Pentagon Official - US News - Mar 24, 2022
• Russia running short of precision missiles, say western officials - Financial Times - Apr 29, 2022
• SCORCHED EARTH Now humiliated Putin is running out of MISSILES in desperate bid to defeat Ukraine, UK armed forces chief tells TalkTV - Sun - May 5, 2022
• Putin ‘running out of missiles’ amid claims quarter of Russian Army now lost - City A.M. - May 6, 2022
• Is Russia running out of missiles? US, Russia send mixed messages - Jerusalem Post - May 16, 2022
• Explainer: Is Russia Running Low on Missiles? - Moscow Times - May 17, 2022
• Has Russia Run Out of Precision-Guided Missiles? - SOFREP - May 23, 2022
• Russia ‘running out’ of precision weapons - UK Defense Journal - Jun 11, 2022
• Russia fires five-and-a-half ton Cold War-era missiles designed to destroy aircraft carriers at Ukrainian forces in the Donbas after running out of precision rockets, MoD says - Daily Mail - Jun 12, 2022
• Vladimir Putin running short of missiles as Russian forces turn to old weaponry stock - Mirror - Jul 8, 2022
• Putin left scratching head as Russia RUNS OUT of missiles to make ground attacks - Express - Jul 23, 2022
• Will Russia Run Out of Precision-Guided Munitions? - National Interest - Aug 11, 2022
• Russia Has Run Out of Long-Range Missiles to Terrorize Ukraine - !945 - Aug 20, 2022
• No more than 45% missiles that Russia had before the war remain Chief Directorate of Intelligence - Ukrainska Pravda - Aug 27, 2022
• Russia 'running out of Iskander and Kalibr missiles’ - The New Voice of Ukraine / Yahoo - Aug 27, 2022
• Ukraine Situation Report: Kyiv Claims Russia Is Running Low On Missiles - The Drive - Aug 27, 2022
• Russian Federation will run out of shells, artillery and armoured vehicles by year end - Ukrainska Pravda - Aug 31, 2022
• Russia Might Run Out of Weapons, Ammunition By End of Year: Report - Newsweek - Aug 31, 2022
• Russia Is Running Out of Missiles. That’s Bad News for Ukraine - Defense Post - Sep 1, 2022
• Alexander Kovalenko: when Russia will critically run out of missiles - Odessa Journal - Sep 2, 2022
• Russia Resorting to Out of Date Missiles as Weapon Stocks Run Low: Ukraine - Newsweek - Sep 4, 2022
• Ukraine believes Russia has less than 50 hypersonic missiles left because it can't get the chips needed to make more: report - Business Insider - Sep 6, 2022
• Out Of Missiles! Russia Is Left With ‘Limited Stock’ Of Hypersonic Weapons Due To Microchip Shortage – Ukraine - Eurasian Times - Sep 7, 2022

 

That's fine there are many who don't agree with me on this as there are others who do agree with me. Where I draw the line is the populace should be made aware of the consequences that will follow and are coming to fruition as we continue down this path. The gravity of the situation should not be given short shrift without knowledge and consent of the people.

 

You can't really discuss that without discussing nuclear responses. Because Russia would not be able to hold on the ground against a full invasion of western forces without using tactical nukes, which would invite response from the US and their allies.

If you just talk about conventional forces? The US and the west would carry out heavy long range missile and air strikes on Russian air defenses and logistical hubs, first and foremost. After some time doing that, ground forces would advance and russians would struggle to resupply and would be forced to fall back under heavy fire.

But that's all fantasy - it isn't happening. And even if the US did mobilize to send ground forces in, it would take months to get all the equipment and soldiers in theatre. And that's not even discussing the possibility of western involvement leading to other nations getting involved.

 

The American people are moving on from Ukraine. It is the POTUS and Congress (both parties) that don’t have an off-ramp.

 

Russia would be fighting out of it’s backyard. For the US it would be another Vietnam.

 

Yes at some point it is about values and that point is when it crosses our shores. At this point it has not, even though the US has made clear our stance with arms, intelligence and economic support. This particular issue is between European nations, Ukraine and Russia.

The idea that a nation so corrupt as the Ukraine can drive this decision to global chaos boggles my mind.

 

ukraine is not driving the decision - Russia is.

 

As I said Ukraine has garnered the support of the west. It is Ukraine driving the decisions made by western allies and NATO.

 

Kyiv experiences a normal day in Donetsk ...

https://youtube.com/shorts/rMBRFhr0iNU?feature=share

 

“But US stockpiles of some equipment are "reaching the minimum levels needed for war plans and training," and restocking to pre-invasion levels could take years, Mark Cancian of the Center for Strategic and International Studies wrote in a recent analysis.”

US ammunition supplies dwindle as Ukraine war drains stockpiles

 

Hey. If you can’t beat the army kill civilians instead.

That’ll teach em a lesson.

 

Ukraine has been killing civilians, on purpose, for years and are still doing it.

 

Strongly disagree. The western world wouldn't have to be involved in anything had Russia not chosen to invade and annex a European country. I think your perspective on this is backwards.

 

Hey Dugger. If you’re responding to me don’t bother as I have you on ignore and can’t read your posts.

 

That’s showing me!

 

I never liked him or his movies. Never really understood why ... now I'm starting to see why.

 

You're more than welcome to disagree I have no issue with that at all. However one must be reminded the annexation did not occur at the onset of this war. The annexation is a result of the continued support from western allies since day one. Zelensky went pleading hat in hand and NATO plus western allies filled his coffers. The US could have said no at the onset and let European nations deal with the issue. Of course that did not happen and we are where we are today because of it. The tepid response of European nations should tell you how much they rely on US support for military operations as well as financial (US bears the brunt of this) support. Had we said no it would be a different story.

 

you’ve been giving the worst case scenario since February and just about none of your fearful worries have come to pass.
No one will want US troops on the ground. It’s a non-starter. The goal has never truly been to save Ukraine, it’s been to weaken Russia. That gets accomplished now whether they eventually “win” or not. We could have sent troops day one if we wanted a war with Russia. So could have Europe, nothing has changed in that regard.

 

"The annexation is a result of the continued support from western allies since day one."

 

Exactly because the worst case scenario is coming as we follow the path of events to date. As far as the goal of weakening Russia it is weakening every nation on a global scale. We see what is playing out and idiotic decisions by politicians are making that apparent.

Didn't we tell Europe not to depend on Russia for their energy and industrial complex? We did recognize Germany as the power house that it is on the industrial stage. We also warned Europe of the potential consequences of relying on Russia for energy. Europe ignored all of that. In one ear and out the other those warnings went.

If anything the US made the European situation worse with sanctions that European nations were against. At first it was send arms and money to Ukraine, followed by take their assets, then it was take their private citizens property, then it was remove their banking institutions from the global economy, then it was impose export sanctions and punish any nation that does not comply. Hell Russia may not have been happy with all of this but even then they did not turn the spigot off. Instead they chose to reduce the flow. Now the spigot is off and we have made sure it will not be turned on any time in the near future. The war has now escalated to a level that alarms the western world and yet the stubbornness persists.

It is not a rosy picture I paint. None the less it is a true picture of what is yet to come. Do I hope it will not get that bad? Absolutely but so far there is nothing on the horizon that is going to stop the madness. Instead it is double down and continue down this path of destroying a global economy.