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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. slayerxing

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  2. duggers_dad

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    The actions of the US govt, towards Putin, belie the notion that he’s unhinged and desperate, finger on the nuke button.

    In reality, he’s far more restrained and far less reckless than they are.

    But the US govt is quite happy that you be Putin is a madman. Keeps you in line.
     
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  3. VAg8r1

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    It's not just the US and Europe that may be running out of weapons.
    Russia might run out of weapons, ammunition by end of year: Report
    As Ukraine counterattacks, Russia’s military facing steep artillery, resupply challenges - Breaking Defense
    Also keep in mind that for its more advanced weapons systems Russia has to rely on imported components which are are no longer available. Just one example.
     
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    “Russia to run out of ammo by March ... by April ... by May ... by ...”.
     
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    I’m not a big mapper. But here is another example of Ukraine’s amazing strategy of creating a pincer while being in a pincer. This is the sort of thing that’s been happening for months now. Russia probably think why attack your enemy when it comes to you to be killed ?

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  6. slayerxing

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  7. slayerxing

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    ps that is called a salient and is common in offensive military strategy.
     
  8. danmanne65

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    I would hope we are doing a first in first out on sending munitions to Ukraine.
     
  9. duggers_dad

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    In this particular conflict, it’s a name for the way Ukraine trades bodies for shells.
     
  10. slayerxing

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    You know Russia did the same thing right?
     
  11. duggers_dad

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    No, they did not. SMO entails that Russia has ceded the initiative to an equal or greater number of Ukraine separatists who’ve handled most of the close-in fighting. Early on, calculations of greater Russian casualties were predicated on the axiom that offensive force suffers greater casualties. But it has been Ukraine rushing contact lines while Russia blasts them from afar with artillery and missile strikes.
     
  12. slayerxing

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    dude the Russians had several active salients at the start of the war.
     
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    They employed largely unresisted flying columns early-on, later cauldrons, with Ukraine taking the bait every time.
     
  14. slayerxing

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    tell that to the thousands of Russians who died on the kyiv salient back when it was the priority of the Russian military. I do like how Russian apologists have tried to argue kyiv was a feint or a ploy. I won’t clog up the thread arguing about it anymore though.
     
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    Thousands of Russians did not die during the non-existent Kyiv salient. During the first month of the war, Russia announced that 1,351 Russians died, in the entire theatre, that it was a “national strategy” ... and “almost none” have died since as Zelensky decided on his bodies for shells on the supposition that Russia would run out of shells before Ukraine ran out of bodies. And all this for Boris Johnson.
     
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    Been saying this since March. We should mobilize the economy, not only for weapons but also food and hydrocarbon production. Would you care to be the next National Security Advisor? It would be nice to have someone in there who “likes strategy and logistics” more than they like politics and narratives.
     
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    Or we could just stop fighting Russia and get back to economy.
     
  18. slayerxing

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    Moses built the ark before the rain. Us military and government should take the same approach to planning.
     
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    happy to apply. No military experience just read a lot of books. Father was career military. Retired after helping handle logistics with nato back before the wall came down.