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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. Tjgators

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    FLASHBACK: Joe Biden in 2019 ~ "Putin knows that when I am president of the United States his days of tyranny and trying to intimidate the United States and those in Eastern Europe are over" "Putin doesn't want me to be President"
     
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  2. 92gator

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    That's a blatantly inaccurate representation of the exchange by the CNN reporter.

    Trump clearly thought that Laura Ingraham said that US troops had invaded via amphibious attack (and her presentation of it was a tad unclear); Trump says that such a thing ought to have been kept classified, not disclosed through the Laura Ingraham show, underscoring the actual misunderstanding and source.

    The CNN reporter there, suggests that Trump thought that the US initiated amphibious attack aside from Ingraham's premise, and worse still, that Trump thought that the US invaded Ukraine, not Russia.

    Sorry chief, but that is some pathetic ass, bush league, agenda driven smear tactic reporting there.

    Typical CNN horseshit.
     
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  3. WC53

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    Question is has Putin broken from reality? You cannot apply logic to nut jobs. People still follow nuts, lemmings that they be.

    Now the Trump headline, I don’t know what is worse for Trump, the CNN take or the excuse for what he thought was said.
     
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  4. 92gator

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    Perspective, much?
     
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  5. ThePlayer

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    It is difficult, perhaps impossible, to overstate the utterly pathetic nature of the Biden presidency thus far. To merely call him feckless or incompetent would be insufficient. Some on the right like to ask if a conservative politician "knows what time it is," proverbially speaking, but the doddering dolt who is America's commander in chief likely does not even know what year it is. His presidency is a disgraceful exercise in how to do everything wrong: the highest inflation in decades, out-of-control spending, supply chain crises and mass product shortages, a humiliating and botched Afghanistan withdrawal and the terrorist Iranian regime racing toward a nuclear weapon. Biden's is the "Murphy's law" presidency -- anything that can go wrong has indeed gone wrong.

    Of Course Vladimir Putin Invaded Ukraine Under Joe Biden's Watch
     
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  6. g8rjd

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    Oh yeah. You really shut me up for good. *eyeroll*

    Let’s see. We were declassifying information out of the Kremlin in real time about Putin’s false flag operation and when he had made the decision to invade. As a result, both Europe and Putin’s own people see this for exactly what it is—authoritarian thuggery.

    Meanwhile, the guy who lost is out there praising Putin, providing RT with propaganda about how “smart” he is, while spouting off about how we should invade and annex parts of Mexico, and claiming that Putin’s real rationale to invade is because of how many people are mad about how he was “cheated” out of an election that he can’t come to grips with having lost—in other words, the real victim of the Ukraine invasion is Trump.

    All this from a guy that was impeached the first time for trying to blackmail Ukraine over its security because he delusionally thought Ukraine was interfereing in our election in 2016 against him because—and this is the best part—Putin told him so. Mind you, he was also the guy that tried to destroy those alliances and wanted to withdraw us from NATO.

    So spare me your bloviating because the reason we aren’t sending aid to Putin right now is because 81 million people voted for Biden over that authoritarian-loving narcissistic useful idiot.

    So yeah, you sure shut me up for good. *eyeroll*
     
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  7. pkaib01

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    Interesting decline in pro-Russian sympathies:

     
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  8. orangeblue_coop

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    Russia-loving Republicans are absolutely loving what's going on right now, and they're not even hiding it. They get to either blast Biden for being weak, or in the event that he responds they can just switch up and cry about him foolishly putting American troops lives in danger. Win-win situation for them.
     
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  9. citygator

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    I didn’t want to start a new thread so:

    Of course China chose to attack the world under Trump with the lab designed virus from Wuhan. They knew the feckless leadership of Trump would mismanage the Trojan horse unleashed on the world and knew that Trump not only would kill his economy, kill his people, but also let them get away Scott free with zero repercussions.

    His presidency is a disgraceful exercise in how to do everything wrong: deomolish an economy, demolish the health of Americans, demolish employment, reduce gdp, associate with our enemies and alienate our friends. He made us weaker than we’ve ever been, in health, economically, and in the worlds standing.

    And Bush was an easy mark for Bin Laden.
     
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  10. 92gator

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    The fact that he waited until Xi had his back to roll the tanks in, would suggest a fair grasp of reality, imo.

    Russia and China Unveil a Pact Against America and the West

    I mean, he's playing the terrain pretty sharply. That's not intended as celebratory, but damn, give the devil his due. Attacks b4 Ukraine admitted to Nato, and before NATO could get its shit together to dissaude him from doing so, AND he hedges his losses vis a vis the sanctions, by shoring up support with China (and india for good measure)...

    Meanwhile, our great leader gift wrapped the pipe line concession inter alia, declared, unequivocally, that we would not be engaging militarily, and even had the audacity to telegraph a hoped for 'out' by allowing for 'minor incursion' (which of course he had to back off after having it force fed down his gullet, but damage done---weakness conveyed).
     
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  11. boligator

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    And what exactly did your dear leader achieve? And to blame Biden for the silly list you presented is asinine. Pathetic.
     
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  12. g8rjd

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    Just curious. How many times has the OP made new threads on the same subject as the existing thread of the Ukraine conflict? Because I’m pretty sure it’s at least two.
     
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  13. orangeblue_coop

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    Here's the part where they cry "Wahhh, why did you bring up Trump?:emoji_sob:"
     
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  14. gogator7444

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    On CNN live updates- Russians already putting out there that there are missle positions in residential areas put there by the US & Ukraine and urged Ukrainian citizens to not allow themselves to be used as human shields. By claiming military items in residential areas they're trying to justify any firing/damage/casualties on civilians.
     
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  15. BLING

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    Well, you are certainly confident in your utter horseshit of a take. That’s something I guess.

    About the only nugget of accurate truth in there is that ANY sanctions globally imposed would still have plenty of weak points. But they will still make Russia much, much poorer the longer they stay on. North Korea is an interesting example to cite as “laughing all the way to the bank”. No regime change in NK have resulted. That is a fair point. Do you think the Russian people would tolerate North Korea-like conditions or anything close to it?

    What is your argument anyway? That we shouldn’t be doing sanctions, or that daddy Trump would have been “strong” and nuked Moscow?
     
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  16. mutz87

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    Yes, they're both really low quality humans.
     
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  17. 92gator

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    Cruz in the worst light possible, is a bloviating typically FOS politician.

    Putin is a cold blooded murdering dictator.

    C'mon man...get a grip.
     
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  18. BLING

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    Biden was correct. Putin has lost his shit, lost his mind. He is acting like a desperate Bond villain here with empire building aspirations. Guy just threatened to drop the international space station on India if they don’t work with him.
     
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  19. dangolegators

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    It is difficult, perhaps impossible, to overstate what an idiot Josh Hammer is.
     
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  20. WC53

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    And like Bond villains , being crazy doesn’t mean you are stupid
     
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