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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. docspor

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    are they trying to make a webinar > Marvel movie, dreamy?
     
  2. G8trGr8t

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    Nearly 15k russian troops cut off in Kherson with no access to supplies, water, food, medical care will be chewed up if they don't surrender first. Putin doesnt care.

    Russian Forces In Kherson ‘Virtually Cut Off’ As Ukraine Counter-Attacks To Take Key City, U.K. Says (forbes.com)

    Russian troops occupying the city of Kherson have been “virtually cut off” from the main invading force, the U.K. defense ministry said on Thursday in its daily intelligence update, as Ukraine’s military continues to mount a counter offensive in the country’s south to retake the key city.



    Why Ukraine’s Kherson Counteroffensive Matters | Time

    Besides its geographical importance, Kherson is an important target for Kyiv given the Russian military’s vulnerability in the region, explains Mark Cancian, a senior security adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), a Washington, D.C.-based think tank. Some 15,000-20,000 Russian troops are stationed to the northwest of the river—a successful offensive would enable Ukrainian forces to “encircle” and “isolate” their opponents, he says. If Kyiv is able to capture many prisoners of war in this way, it could render significant portions of the Russian military in the region “unviable.”



    Ukraine Kills 83 Russians, Destroys Military Equipment, Ammo Depots: Report (msn.com)

    The Ukrainian military says it killed 83 Russian troops on Tuesday, while also destroying three Russian ammunition warehouses and a significant amount of military equipment.

    Ukraine's Operational Command South (OCS) said the situation was "tense and dynamic" in an update posted to Facebook while the country's military was engaged with Russian forces on multiple fronts, including the large southern counteroffensive launched last week. The Russian casualties were reported following 13 apparent Ukrainian airstrikes and 250 missile and artillery attacks.

    OCS also said that five tanks, 12 Msta-B and Msta-S howitzers, three Hyacinth-B cannons and three armored vehicles were destroyed. Three Russian ammunition depots in the Kherson and Mykolaiv regions were also reportedly leveled.
     
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  3. uftaipan

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    Nah, nah, nah, man. You read drugger’s professional assessment: Putin has them right where he wants them. He’s only biding his time, playing with the Ukrainians like a cat does a mouse. Kherson is part of another elaborate deception plan, just as Kyiv was. Putin is even smart enough to let Ukraine fly — what was it? — 30 offensive sorties a day to make Ukraine think that Russia does not really have the air superiority it was supposed to have within 12-48 hours of the start of the “special military operation.”
     
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  4. Swamplizard

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    Cool website I have posted live cams in Ukraine before but this site is more interactive still hard to believe there is a war going on there

    Ukraine Live Cams
     
  5. Tjgators

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    a marathon of destruction

    Habits must be changed comrade citizens if we are to collectively work toward our communal energy goals and climate change aspirations.

    Always gonna need oil & gas. If we are going to build an infrastructure, it needs to be heavy on nuclear.
     
  6. duggers_dad

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    Yes, stars this guy ...

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  7. duggers_dad

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    I find these Russian timeline memes amusing.
     
  8. G8trGr8t

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    we can agree on the need for nuclear but it needs to be the next gen nuclear being developed. we will disagree on the need for EV cars/trucks/busses if you think they aren't needed. yes, we will always nee doil and gas for some things but others can be done by electricity to help reduce pollution provided we can get next gen nuclear and solve the battery problem without having to rape the earth for ever dwindling supplies or REM's

    and that is definitely OT for this thread so no idea why you dropped it in here other than a driveby attempt to insult Biden and the dems
     
  9. G8trGr8t

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    How Is Russian Economy Doing? Worse Recession Scenario Seen in Internal Report - Bloomberg

    Russia may face a longer and deeper recession as the impact of US and European sanctions spreads, handicapping sectors that the country has relied on for years to power its economy, according to an internal report prepared for the government.

    The document, the result of months of work by officials and experts trying to assess the true impact of Russia’s economic isolation due to President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, paints a far more dire picture than officials usually do in their upbeat public pronouncements. Bloomberg viewed a copy of the report, drafted for a closed-door meeting of top officials on Aug. 30. People familiar with the deliberations confirmed its authenticity.

    Two of the three scenarios in the report show the contraction accelerating next year, with the economy returning to the prewar level only at the end of the decade or later. The “inertial” one sees the economy bottoming out next year 8.3% below the 2021 level, while the “stress” scenario puts the low in 2024 at 11.9% under last year’s level.
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    Beyond the restrictions themselves, which cover about a quarter of imports and exports, the report details how Russia now faces a “blockade” that “has affected practically all forms of transport,” further cutting off the country’s economy. Technological and financial curbs add to the pressure. The report estimates as many as 200,000 IT specialists may leave the country by 2025, the first official forecast of the widening brain drain.
     
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  11. carpeveritas

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    Yes Russia will suffer through a recession same as the US and European nations. As for the brain drain thats a forecast. I can tell you IBM has moved out of Russia yet you haven't heard a peep about Russian issues in the IT world.

    As for the reports I expect no less every nation produces reports on economic outlook.
     
  12. duggers_dad

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    When Starbucks Coffee moved out of Russia, Russia missed a golden opportunity to replace it with Tsarbucks Coffee.
     
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  13. G8trGr8t

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    The russian recession/depression will be much worse. Theya re already scavenging planes for parts as neither airbus or boeing or their supply chain are sending any airline parts. The chip shortage is closing their auto manufacturing. Do you honestly beleive that as the entire airline fleets are grounded and all vehicle production stops that the impacts will not be much more severe than anything the west will have to deal with? And the brain drain is real. You continue to demonstrate a bias and seem unwilling to recognize what is obvious to most others, ie russian economy is going to suffer much worse than others both short and long term

    Russia's young, educated tech and creative class are fleeing in droves. It could mean bad news for the already-faltering economy | Fortune

    Russia's brain drain: War with Ukraine prompts tens of thousands to flee abroad | Euronews
     
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  14. uftaipan

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    My guess is it will meet a similar ignominious end to your last czar.
     
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  15. duggers_dad

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    Putin seems to be doing just fine.
     
  16. mdgator05

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    They are down 4% in Q2 and are projected to be down 7% in Q3 (which is similar to what happened to economic activity in Russia at the beginning of Covid). And that is if you believe their central bank. Can you list the NATO or EU countries projected to lose that much over Q2 and Q3? If it is "the same recession," it should be a long list.

    Russia GDP Annual Growth Rate - 2022 Data - 2023 Forecast - 1996-2021 Historical
     
  17. uftaipan

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    I’m shocked that you openly admit Putin is a czar. I thought that was the quiet part. But, no, I was referring to Nicholas II. Your Putin loves history, so he ought to be studying the last days of Czar Nicholas very closely. I think he’ll find it a little like looking into the future.
     
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  18. oragator1

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    Your refusal to admit anything being bad for Russia borders on the bizarre. Even Russia is admitting it. I would go through the litany of things you seem to want to whistle past, but it’s wasted energy. Russia is in deep trouble both short and medium term, regardless of whether you accept it or not.
     
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  19. duggers_dad

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    Well, democracy is overrated. See: just about any country. I don’t think it’s a bad thing for the world OR for America that Putin is breaking American hegemony.
     
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    Ben Wittes on yesterday's Rational Security podcast persuasively argued the following as his hot take:

    • Russia's terminal decline presents one of the greatest threats to global security.

    He thought Russia's imminent decline was more of a danger than the rise of China. Shane Harris thought it was more of a danger to world security than either China or climate change. I don't know if I agree with the latter and I would not have considered the former but I found myself being persuaded.


    Rational Security 2.0: The 'Anniversary Hot Take Takedown' Edition
     
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