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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    I don't disagree with anything you have stated but believe that others are ahead of us in regards to increasing LNG capacity beyond what is already under development, which is a considerable increase in itself (nearly 50%)

    U.S. LNG export capacity set to expand further - CompressorTECH² (compressortech2.com)

    U.S. LNG producers exported an average of 11.1 Bcf/d in the first half of 2022, a record and the world’s largest. In addition to the Golden Pass LNG, which started construction in 2019, two additional projects in the Gulf Coast region have started construction.

    Golden Pass LNG will have three standard-sized LNG trains, each with a baseload capacity of about 0.7 Bcf/d and a peak capacity of about 0.8 Bcf/d.Golden Pass LNG is under construction at the site of an existing regasification facility and will use some of the existing infrastructure to reduce costs and shorten the construction timetable.

    The Plaquemines LNG facility will have 24 mid-scale trains, each with a baseload capacity of 0.07 Bcf/d. The plant will have a combined capacity of 1.6 Bcf/d. The Corpus Christi Stage II project is under development at the site of an existing terminal with three liquefaction trains already in operations. The new addition will have a baseload capacity of 1.3 Bcf/d.

    Once complete, the three new exports project currently under construction will expand LNG peak export capacity by a combined 4.9 Bcf/d, the EIA reported.
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    Summary of LNG expansion in the ME here but most of these are downrange.

    Global Thirst For Natural Gas Triggers Middle East Spending Spree | OilPrice.com
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    I never said they were ignoring them. Some are squealing as their ox is being gored while others understand that they need to break their addiction to the criminals coffers. The same EU element that is complaining are the same ones that would offer appeasement in exchange for their fix to feed their addiction to the russian energy and oligarchs free spending of the treasures being looted form the Russian people. Thankfully, they are in the minority and more sane, rational elements are in charge.

    What I fail to understand is why you continue to propagate the concept that the EU is willing to, or should be willing to, capitulate to the extortion being asked of them.

    And I have never, not once, advocated for a shooting war with Russia. Crippling their economy and their military would be the goal to encourage a wholesale change in their leadership principles. Arming Ukraine and convincing europe to wean themselves from Russian energy along with the other sanction is well down the road to achieving those goals.
     
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  3. carpeveritas

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    Ukraine is one the most corrupt nations on the planet. They would be just as free under the control of the US than they would under Russia. Since Russia is adamant on taking Ukraine lets take Ukraine from Russia and take Russia as well if they object. Let's be honest this is not about Ukrainian freedom the only freedom that matters is US citizens freedom.
     
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  4. G8trGr8t

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    They were (following Russian lead), which is why many nations, including the US, demanded the replacement of the chief prosecutor as a condition of aid back when. The same demand that the pubs try and spin into Biden trying to protect Hunter..smdh..With Ukraine so reliant on foreign aid, the rest of the world is in a much stronger position to require the sort of corruption controls that are needed to insure that they do not return to their old ways and Zelenski has the political capital to push the additional reforms through.
     
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  5. G8trGr8t

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    how would you propose to eliminate the whole nuclear deterrent thing? Do you really think Russia would suffer a military defeat and occupation without using their nukes?
     
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  6. carpeveritas

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    Of course it's extortion and the table was set for this to happen when they put all their eggs in the basket with Russia in the first place. Europe will be forced to make concessions and this is what is currently happening with the gas situation.

    It doesn't matter what the US wants it matters what Europeans want. The population wants a stable economy and they want the gas that was supplied by Russia. In this instance concessions must be made and if European leaders believe everyone is willing to go along with such reductions in energy and raw materials for their industrial plants that provide jobs, stability and a strong economy for the populace they are in for a rude awakening.
     
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  7. G8trGr8t

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    nobody will ever get everyone to agree on anything. those absolutes don't exist. Even Germany ahs now recognized that their deal with the devil was a bad one and they are moving away from it. How much of Europe do you think they should sacrifice to Putin in exchange for cheap energy? I want six lucky numbers and a life of health and luxury, we can't all get what we want.
     
  8. tampagtr

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    Interesting. Hadn't seen posted

     
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  10. carpeveritas

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    That's the biggie everyone worries about and the US is playing chicken with European and US interests and it is one of the reasons I say get the hell out and let Europe deal with it. Russian nukes can hit the US just as easily as they can hit European soil.
     
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  11. carpeveritas

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    And yet we still have Zelinsky who is just as crooked. Let's not forget he was not in good graces with the Ukrainian population prior to the Russian invasion.
     
  12. carpeveritas

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    When you bring Europe to it's knees it will capitulate. Funny thing about politicians they want to remain in power.
     
  13. G8trGr8t

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    I have seen no indication that he is crooked. Do you have link to reputable reports of his corruption? If he was as corrupt as you seem to believe, I doubt he would have stayed in Kiev at great risk to himself when so many were trying to get him to leave in the event that they needed to form a gubmnt in exile. Maybe I'm naive or uniformed but his actions are not what one would expect of a corrupted political figure.

    There was a portion of the Ukrainian populace that was dependent on the graft that he was fighting so yes, there were people unhappy with him. Change doesn't come easy.
     
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  14. G8trGr8t

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    Hitler thought the same thing, so did Putin, before the war. What makes you think that Russia is capable of bringing them to their knees? I would say that Putin is the one nearest to being on his knees as his army crumbles before his eyes and his economy is crashing. And no, the value of the ruble is not indicative of the strength of the economy.
     
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  15. G8trGr8t

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    so would you have supported the US position on Germany before Pearl Harbor? Either you are a leader willing to support your alliances or you are not. You lament the way we left Afghan after DT made the deal with the Taliban and then advocate for abandoning our European allies and letting Ukraine fall to Russia. I don't understand your position at all unless you are a Putin supporter.
     
  16. G8trGr8t

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    I suspect that Putin is going to find out that the NK weaponry is about as reliable as those Iranian drones he bought. I just wonder how much he is willing to spend to try and keep this up and how long the oligarchs and the people are willing to suffer, It seems taht Russia has passed the point of no return with respect to being a member of the global economy as long as they hold onto any Ukrainian territory
     
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  17. carpeveritas

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    What Pandora Papers revealed about Zelensky offshore accounts and funding from Ukranian kleptocracy
    The documents show that Zelensky and his partners in a television production company, Kvartal 95, set up a network of offshore firms dating back to at least 2012, the year the company began making regular content for TV stations owned by Ihor Kolomoisky, an oligarch dogged by allegations of multi-billion-dollar fraud. The offshores were also used by Zelensky associates to purchase and own three prime properties in the center of London.

    The documents also show that just before he was elected, he gifted his stake in a key offshore company, the British Virgin Islands-registered Maltex Multicapital Corp., to his business partner — soon to be his top presidential aide. And in spite of giving up his shares, the documents show that an arrangement was soon made that would allow the offshore to keep paying dividends to a company that now belongs to his wife.
    Ukraine: Zelensky’s kleptocracy

    Zelensky won the 2019 presidential election on an anti-corruption ticket. He was backed by Ihor Kolomoyskyi, one of the richest men in Ukraine, worth $1.8bn. Kolomoyskyi, who in March 2021 was banned from entering the US for ‘involvement in significant corruption’, stands accused of looting the Ukrainian Privatbank, which he owned at the time, of more than $5bn in ‘the biggest financial fraud of the 21st century’. The Pandora Papers two years ago revealed that Zelensky and his television production partners were involved in a web of offshore firms that allegedly received $41m in funds from Kolomoskyi’s Privatbank.


    Kolomoyskyi’s Privatbank was nationalised in 2016 by Petro Poroshenko, who preceded Zelensky as president, and is also one of the richest men in Ukraine. He was president from 2014 to 2019, coming to power on the back of the Maidan coup. Accused of treason, he fled into exile after his election defeat. He was alleged to have made lucrative deals with the separatists in eastern Ukraine while fuelling the civil war against them as president. He is now back in Ukraine, posing as an ultra-nationalist. The Poroshenko government showed its ‘democratic’ credentials by banning the Ukrainian Communist Party and criminalising communist symbols.
     
  18. carpeveritas

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    And on that note we disagree.
     
  19. duggers_dad

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    Is the West still stealing yachts from rich Russians who don’t like Putin to get back at Putin ?
     
  20. mdgator05

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    You really just linked "revolutionarycommunist.org" as if it was a reasonable source? Somehow, I doubt you would accept that as a source in any other context...
     
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