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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. BLING

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    You’ve been asleep. It’s been demonstrated, by numerous MAGA figures including Trump himself who has been praising Putin since last night.
     
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  2. orangeblue_coop

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    Good for them. No bone spurs over here.
     
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  3. channingcrowderhungry

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    Supposedly there is a Ukranian Fulcrum pilot with 6 confirmed aerial victories today making him the first "flying ace" (5 kills) in almost 60 years. They've nicknamed him the Ghost of Kyiv.
     
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  4. sierragator

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    Been busy at work, are Trump and his sycophants still carrying water for that sworn enemy of the USA, Putin?
     
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  5. uftaipan

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    Where did you hear that? Great story if true.
     
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  6. Trickster

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    WHAT IS MAN?

    “Man is the only animal that deals in that atrocity of atrocities War. He is the only one that gathers his brethren about him and goes forth in cold blood and calm pulse to exterminate his kind. He is the only animal that for sordid wages will march out... and help to slaughter strangers of his own species who have done him no harm and with whom he has no quarrel.... And in the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood off his hands and works for the universal brotherhood of man with his mouth.”
    — MARK TWAIN
     
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  7. BLING

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    But of course.
     
  8. sierragator

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    Traitorous bastards
     
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  9. rivergator

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    come on guys. Some of you are just insulting each other and not talking about the issues at all. please stop

    thanks
     
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  10. 92gator

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    Putin in on his 5th US president. He waits til now to move.

    What changed?

    (Not an attack on Biden, in case you think that's where im headed).

    Personally, I think what's changed, is China. China is in a position of power, and they flexed their muscles through covid (no consequence at all, because they dictated the narrative).

    Putin isnt stupid. Imo, he doesn't do this brazen act of defiance against the West, wothout some sort of backing beyond his admittedly formidable military.

    That backing is China. He and Xi entered into an agreement before this. China will have Russia's back, and undermine the efficacy of the sanctions. From "behind the scenes", as China has been doing for a very long time.

    Jmho/fwiw.
     
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  11. 92gator

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    Twain was brilliant.
     
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  12. 92gator

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    2 problems there.

    1. Ukraine not a member of NATO;

    2. And please correct me if i have this wrong, but not only did Ukraine not ask for our help, but didnt they expressly ask us to stay the hell out, and ask Biden to tone down the rhetoric?
     
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  13. BLING

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    I don’t doubt this. It could be useful to China as a distraction. Not sure Putin is waiting around for their approval, but then again I’m sure the timing of waiting until after the Olympics was some level of deference to them (and I guess not wanting to subject their athletes to western media ridicule).
     
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  14. g8rjd

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    :’(

     
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  15. Tjgators

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    Biden is really not in charge. He just gets the credit or blame. He is not smart enough to make decisions and these moves are coming from Obama a half mile down the street.
     
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  16. BLING

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    Doubt they asked us in any way to “stay the hell out”. That’s ridiculous. They certainly want any help the US or NATO would give.

    They did ask Biden to ease off the rhetoric a bit. Although it turns out U.S. intel was basically spot on.
     
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    Taiwan joins the alliance sanctioning Russia. This matters.

     
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  18. gatorplank

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    There was a pretty good discussion of Putin's potential motives in this podcast.

     
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  19. 92gator

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    You doubt it, but that's what I recall hearing reported.

    ...and btw, do you recall Ukraine asking NATO to admit them?

    Yeah, me neither...
     
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  20. orangeblue_coop

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    Let's see if the folks who constantly cry about Trump randomly being brought up in threads will say something about this poster randomly bringing up Obama. My guess is "Nah"
     
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