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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. carpeveritas

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    I tend to agree. A park with no one around in the middle of the day and one lone camera filming versus running for cover is questionable. You see the explosions but zero aftermath. Sane people would run for cover then film the damage afterwards.
     
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  2. gogator7444

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    Security cams wouldn't need to run. And yes people do have cams at parks. We have them at several parks here due to vandalism.

    Could it be fake? Possibly. I'm not there personally. But cams are a possibility.

    Edit to add - a sane person wouldn't be in a park if there have been air raid sirens and instructions were to shelter in place. Only a fool would go/take their kids to an open air park in a war zone.
     
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  3. carpeveritas

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    Cams are a possibility however I laid out multiple reasons why I believe it to be propaganda. Too many holes for me to think otherwise.
     
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    And that's fine. I also agreed that it was possible that it could be a fake. I was addressing the camera/"why wouldn't they run" question.
     
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    ***if true. Thought it was interesting

     
  8. uftaipan

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    Extremely disappointing that the Pope would say this. The blame in this war is entirely on one side. This position is going to undermine his credibility and cost him serious support for his other reforms, some of which are very reasonable.
     
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    Yeah I didn't like that at all. I'm trying to separate that blame game mess from his efforts at evacuating/calling for a peaceful resolution though.
     
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    Yeah if only the abuser's wife hadn't pissed him off. What a line of bullshit
     
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    Cnn live

    "Ukrainian commander inside Azovstal plant says Russians violated truce pledge and fierce combat is ongoing

    From CNN's Julia Kesaieva and Tim Lister
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    "It's been the third day that the enemy has broken through to the territory of Azovstal. Fierce bloody combat is ongoing," said Sviatoslav Palamar, the Azov regiment’s deputy commander.
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    "Once again, the Russians violated the promise of a truce and did not allow evacuation for civilians who continue to hide in the basements of the Azovstal plant. I call on the world community to evacuate civilians," Palamar said. He also made an appeal to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, saying: "I personally appeal to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief to take care of the wounded soldiers who are dying in terrible agony from improper treatment. Give the opportunity to pick up the bodies of soldiers so that Ukrainians can say goodbye to their heroes. Respond appropriately to a critical situation in which the enemy does not adhere to any ethical norms."

    After about 100 civilians were able to leave the plant Sunday, none have emerged since. There are thought to be between 200 and 300 civilians still inside the plant, including 30 children. Since Sunday, it has been bombarded from land, sea and air."
     
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    Cnn live

    "Germany starts construction of liquified natural gas terminals in effort to shake off Russia oil

    From CNN's Nadine Schmidt in Berlin

    Germany marked the start of construction work on Thursday for its first floating terminals for liquified natural gas (LNG) in Wilhelmshaven, a city and port located in Lower Saxony. The construction is part of the country’s efforts to become independent of Russian gas in the wake of the Kremlin’s ongoing war in Ukraine.

    Germany is attempting to speed up the construction of the terminal in order to import LNG from various countries, including the US.

    "We have a good chance to do what is actually normally impossible in Germany: To build an LNG terminal within about 10 months, and to connect it to the German gas supply," Germany's Vice Chancellor and Economy Minister Robert Habeck said while watching the start of the construction work for the LNG terminal aboard a ship."
     
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    I cannot see any path to a peaceful resolution at this point. What the Pope should be quoting to the world right now are the principles of Just War Theory and shaming all the countries, including ours, who sit on the sidelines watching evil and doing nothing.
     
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    lolwut?

    How much of this did you watch? One lone camera? There are like a dozen different views. And the fact that you couldn't put 2 and 2 together and tell that these dozen or so cameras didn't flinch other than from the shockwave, and thought that these were people holding a camera... is questionable.
     
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    this is why you don’t need any Americans Fighting. Just bleed out the Russians. And other 2/ 3 weeks of this and it would decimate their fighting capabilities for years to come
     
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