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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

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    I wonder if this is via cyber control of machinery that was pushed to failure or if someone planted devices that caused this. Either way, it is past time that the war move onto Russian soil
     
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    more likely they are trying to disable trains to limit transfer of weapons
     
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    Oh I don't doubt that portion, but it could've been multi purpose. Just saying it's a possibility with the timing.
     
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    Recycling helps everyone
     
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    Apparently this was attempted & didn't worn. So Russians are trying it again LOL
     
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    Waste of time...but... cnn live

    "UN secretary general is on his way to Moscow, UN spokesman says


    United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres is currently on a plane en route to Moscow, Deputy Spokesman for the Secretary-General Farhan Haq said Monday.

    Guterres will be “received” by Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday and will have a working meeting and lunch with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. He is also scheduled to travel to Kyiv and meet with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba on Thursday.

    “It’s important that he [the Secretary-General] is able to talk clearly with the leadership on both sides and see what progress we can make. Ultimately, the end goal is to have a halt to fighting, and to have ways to improve the situation of the people in Ukraine, lessen the threat that they’re under and provide humanitarian aid towards them,” Haq said to reporters during an afternoon press briefing.

    Haq also said that while Guterres has not spoken with United States President Joe Biden ahead of his upcoming trip to Moscow and Kyiv, he has spoken with other senior US officials."
     
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    I'm thinking sabotage against the occupiers. Cnn live

    "Explosion in Russian-occupied Kreminna results in casualties, Ukrainian official says

    From CNN's Kostan Nechyporenko and Tim Lister

    A senior official in Ukraine's Interior Ministry says there has been a large explosion in the town of Kreminna in the Luhansk region, an area recently occupied by Russian forces.

    Anton Gerashchenko said the explosion took place at an administrative building in the town. Ukrainian forces withdrew from Kreminna last week.

    "As a result of a gas explosion in the city council's building in Kreminna, no one survived," he said on Telegram.
    "Simultaneously with the natural gas explosion in the building of the city council, there was a second explosion of domestic gas in the district police department, where a group of collaborators had gone for a meeting," he said."
     
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    Anyone thinking / considering that Putin is throwing the dice with this re-direction of forces with hopes of "over-whelming" the Blue and Gold in this latest surge?

    And if it fails??

    I tend to think that failure and the consideration of a long drawn out conflict will not be appealing to Mr. Putin, but then again, I did not think the US would be in Afganistan for 20 years either.
     
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    He's looking desperate for some kind of win by the 9th. Photos of him show him shaky, biting his lip a lot, gripping tables for balance, etc. Hopefully that doesn't lead to pushing the button but yeah this reeks of desperation to show the people SOMETHING for "his troubles".
     
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    Perhaps he can ahem visit a balcony.....
     
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    Here comes the fake referendum. Allegedly Ukranian army is about 5 miles out.

     
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    Hello ICEQUEEN -
    You are pretty invested with information regarding the conflict.
    Thank you

    show him shaky, biting his lip a lot, gripping tables for balance, etc.

    Body language is of course rather revealing, especially nowdays.

    Me I can't even lie to my dog without him knowing..................

    This conflict has me really bothered, it's hard to "pack it" into a compartment that "oh, its on the other side of the world, who gives a shit" like some Americans are won't to do.

    And I don't think that non-careerist Russian soldiers are necessarily "Bad-Guys" either. Clearly, as in all Russian conflicts, the regular soldiers are just meat for the grist mill.

    It sucks that we have this asshole with a Napoleonic Complex having the capability to alter the entire human world if his underlings obey an order to fire nukes.

    I think back to Speer's "Inside the Third Reich, amd Hitlers own written testimony and closing statement to the German people:

    "Not a direct quote, going from memory":

    The Bolsheviks have proven themselves to be the stronger.
    The German people do not deserve to have any infrastructure left
    (bread and water)

    When Hitler ordered Speer to destroy all that was left of German industry, transport, water, power, fuel and food making capabilities.

    He made that statement after an entire nation lost:
    7.75 million dead
    x 2 wounded or crippled
    millions more homeless
    every city obliterated

    A nation ripped asunder.

    Talk about a narcissist.

    Because of an absolute lunatic. Not that I am exonerating Germans, Hitler wrote Mein Kampf and it was a huge seller in Germany.

    Any IDIOT that paid attention would have seen clear as day where the monster was heading. They chose to ignore it and paid the price. Germany destroyed and divided amongst the victors.

    Hitler would have used nukes

    Is Putin as deranged? I have serious concerns that he is.

    My hope is that his underlings will not participate in putting humankind back to the stone age and kill the MF'er.
     
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    It just seems important to share & discuss not only regarding the humanitarian toll but the fact it involves a superpower headed by a crazed megalomaniac that could vaporize the world & acts increasingly more & more like Hitler, to which the world had said "Never Again" yet here we are.

    And I'm beyond the only one. Just working from home gives me the flexibility not to have a boss over my shoulder watching that I don't use my phone ;)

    Plus too many could be tempted to say it's too far away, not my business, Ukraine lies & Russia is right, it's NATOs fault, etc. Can't just turn our heads & make it go away.
     
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