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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. gogator7444

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    Did he start talking? Didn't get to see the feed.
     
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    "US to push for Russia to be suspended from Human Rights Council, calls for the world to "show some backbone"


    The United States Ambassador to the United Nations made a case for seeking the suspension of Russia from the Human Rights Council — something she and other UN Member states are calling for, which would require a vote in the General Assembly.

    “Russia should not have a position of authority in a body whose very purpose is to promote respect for human rights. Not only is it the height of hypocrisy, it is dangerous,” Ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield said addressing the Security Council Tuesday.
    Departing from her prepared remarks, she said she believes, like the Ukrainian president who spoke moments before her, that “this moment requires responsible world powers and global leaders to show some backbone and stand up to Russia’s dangerous and unprovoked threat against Ukraine and the world.”"
     
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    russian chopper brought down by anti-tank missile
     
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  4. sierragator

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    I saw a headline where he was denying Russian troops engaged in any violence in Bucha. I assumed his remarks were today.
     
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    Goody, more talking points for Tucker
     
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    Russia deserves to be expelled from the UN entirely
     
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    When it comes to actual terrorism compared with Russia, ISIS is the JV team. While both have committed horrendous acts of terrorism when it comes to scope ISIS didn't come close to what Vladimir's boys are now doing in Ukraine.
     
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    I don’t know that there is a procedure for expelling a member, but I would think at the very least Article V would have to be triggered and a member nation would have to categorically refuse to assist in order for there to even be a discussion of the matter. Hungary’s actions, while disappointing, aren’t even close to the top of my list of examples of member nations failing to pull their weight in the alliance over the last 20 years. My personal feeling is that the whole Treaty needs to be renegotiated in light of Russian aggression and far more specific on what the obligations and contributions of member nation shall (not should) be. Presently, the treaty is far too squishy and allows certain nations the protection of the alliance while giving them too many outs if they have to come to another member’s protection.
     
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    I would vote for that if it were a thing.
     
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    I don’t know about out of the UN, but they shouldn’t be on the security council. Add India or Brazil - neither are perfect but they aren’t Putin.
    Never happen though.
     
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    Agreed that it would never happen. But India also recently proved that it is not a mature-enough state to serve as a permanent member of the UNSC by aligning itself with Russia despite its gross breach of the peace.
     
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    Not sure I want to give American conservatives the idea that you can get out of the UN by starting wars
     
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    Russian ambassador playing the victim card that a meeting wasn't scheduled when requested, then the new sec council president replied
     
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