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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. gogator7444

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    Cnn live - want a camera on the Russian & Chinese during this speech.

    "SOON: Ukrainian President Zelensky addresses the United Nations Security Council


    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is scheduled to address the United Nations Security Council on Tuesday at 10 a.m. ET, a spokesperson confirmed.

    Earlier today, he spoke about the need for "serious players who are ready to go all the way" when it comes to security guarantees.

    "We need serious players who are ready to go all the way. We need a circle of countries who would within 24 hours provide us with any weapons," said Zelensky.

    He also cast doubt on the possibility of meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin after he accused Russia of genocide. Zelensky paid a visit to the Kyiv suburb of Bucha on Monday, an area where shocking images of civilian bodies strewn on the streets emerged over the weekend. During the visit he said that it was "very difficult to negotiate" with Russia "when you see what they have done here."
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    Nothing other than Russia leaving every inch of Ukraine should be acceptable now. Those that claim they want to be part of Russia can move to Russia.
     
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  2. gogator7444

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    Per CNN:

    "The US successfully tested a hypersonic missile in mid-March but kept it quiet for two weeks to avoid escalating tensions with Russia as President Joe Biden was about to travel to Europe, according to a defense official familiar with the matter.

    The Hypersonic Air-breathing Weapon Concept (HAWC) was launched from a B-52 bomber off the west coast, the official said, in the first successful test of the Lockheed Martin version of the system. A booster engine accelerated the missile to high speed, at which point the air-breathing scramjet engine ignited and propelled the missile at hypersonic speeds of Mach 5 and above.

    The official offered scant details of the missile test, only noting the missile flew above 65,000 feet and for more than 300 miles. But even at the lower end of hypersonic range -- about 3,800 miles per hour -- a flight of 300 miles is less than 5 minutes.
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    The Kinzhal missile is simply an air-launched version of the Russian Iskander short-range ballistic missile. In other words, it is a variation of an established technology as opposed to a revolution in hypersonic weaponry. The US test was of a more sophisticated and difficult air-breathing scramjet engine. The HAWC missile also has no warhead, instead relying on its kinetic energy to destroy the target."

    Full article & details below.

    US tested hypersonic missile in mid-March but kept it quiet to avoid escalating tensions with Russia - CNNPolitics
     
  3. gogator7444

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    Cnn live. No surprise

    "Russians blocking arrival of humanitarian supplies to southern city of Melitopol, mayor says

    From CNN's Maria Kostenko in Chernivtsi

    Ivan Fedorov, mayor of the Russian-occupied city of Melitopol, said Tuesday that Russian troops had been blocking the delivery of humanitarian supplies and hindering the evacuation of civilians.

    "The situation with humanitarian corridors has not improved," Fedorov said in televised remarks. "For the past two weeks, we managed to deliver only two humanitarian cargoes to Melitopol."
    Melitopol is around 60 miles south of Zaporizhzhia, the regional capital, which is under Ukrainian control. Fedorov said the road between Melitopol and Zaporizhzhia in peacetime usually requires a one-hour drive, but navigating Russian checkpoints can take more than five or six hours.

    "Due to the fact that the Russian occupiers are blocking the passage of humanitarian goods and are doing everything to ensure that our citizens do not receive aid, now the humanitarian goods can stay [stranded] on the route for two or three days," he said. "Unfortunately, food and basic necessities did not reach our people because they were immediately confiscated and looted by the Russian occupiers.""
     
  4. VAg8r1

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    Heard about the strike on the tank of nitric acid early this morning. My initial reaction is that the Russians have resorted to an indirect form of chemical warfare. Although I hope that I am wrong it may only be a matter of time before they start using actual chemical munitions.
     
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    Let's call Russia what they are: a terrorist nation
     
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  6. gogator7444

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    "Putin: Russian fuel and seeds supplies need to be regulated

    Certain supplies, including fuel and seeds, should be regulated by the government, President Vladimir Putin warned Russia in a televised address. But he blamed it on global shortages of food and not on western sanctions against Russia.

    “It is clear that this year, against the backdrop of a global food shortage, we will have to be more prudent in our food supplies abroad, namely, to monitor carefully the parameters of such exports to countries that are clearly hostile towards us,” Putin said in a televised address at the agricultural industry meeting.
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    “In conditions of external restrictions, a most important issue is the availability of modern equipment and repair parts,” he added.

    Western sanctions against Russia were laid because of “mistakes in the economic, energy, and food policies” of developed countries, which led to higher prices and lack of food supplies, Putin claimed."
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    Oh Lord. What a spin.
     
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    Yep. You didn’t break up with me! I broke up with you!
     
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  8. gogator7444

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    Cnn live

    "Zelensky says "there is not a single crime" that Russians "would not commit" in Bucha

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky opened his remarks to the UN Security Council by addressing what he witnessed in Bucha, saying of the Russians who attacked the Kyiv suburb, "there is not a single crime they would not commit there."

    Speaking through a translator, Zelensky said:

    "The Russian military surge and purposefully killed anyone who served our country. They shot and killed women outside their houses when they just tried to call someone who is alive. They killed entire families, adults and children, and they tried to burn the bodies. I am addressing you on behalf of the people who honor the memory of the deceased every single day and the memory of the civilians who died, they were shot and killed in the back of their head after being tortured. Some of them were shot on the streets." He said that the Russians killed civilians in Bucha "just for their pleasure."

    "They cut off limbs, slashed their throats, women raped and killed in front of their children. Their tongues were pulled out only because the aggressor did not hear what they wanted to hear from them," Zelensky added."
     
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    Cnn live

    "Zelensky says that Russians "will blame everyone just to justify their own actions"

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told the UN Security Council that he expects Russians "will blame everyone just to justify their own actions" in Ukraine.

    "They will say that there are various versions, different versions, it's impossible to establish which ones of those versions is true," he said, speaking through a translator. "They will even say that the bodies were, of those were allegedly thrown away and all the videos are staged, but it is 2022 now."

    Zelensky said "we have conclusive evidence that there are satellite images" that show what really happened during the attacks on Bucha, adding, "we can conduct full and transparent investigations.""
     
  10. StrangeGator

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    What would it take to kick Hungary out of NATO? Not a real serious question but I am curious as to what would constitute such a severe violation of the charter that the offending country could be expelled.
     
  11. gogator7444

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    Cnn live. Calling out the UN Security Council. Good for him

    "Zelensky asks UN Security Council to hold Russia accountable and provide guarantees to Ukraine


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    "Where is the security that the Security Council needs to guarantee? It's not there. Although there is a Security Council. So where is the peace? What are those guarantees that the United Nations need to guarantee?" he asked in his speech.
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    "I would like to remind you of Article 1, Chapter 1 of the UN Charter. What is the purpose of our organization? Its purpose is to maintain peace," he said. "And now the UN Charter has been violated literally, starting with Article 1. What is the point of all the other articles?" Calling the Russian actions as "war crimes," Zelensky said he wants full and transparent investigations. He added:

    "Maximum access for journalists, maximum cooperation with international institutions, involvement of the International Criminal Court — complete and full accountability. I'm sure that every member state of the UN should be interested in this. For what? In order to punish once and for all those who consider themselves privileged and believe that they can get away with anything."

    "So, show all the other potential war criminals in the world how they will be punished if the biggest one is punished," he urged the UN Security Council."
     
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  12. gogator7444

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    US representative discussing & confirming Ukranians being forcibly sent to "filtration camps" in Russia. Zelensky also said it in his speech.
     
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    Happening elsewhere too...still some folks will claim it's fake

     
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    Cnn live

    "Belgium blocks more than $200 billion in transactions and freezes $3 billion in assets of sanctioned Russians

    From CNN's James Frater in Brussels

    Since the start of the economic sanctions against Russia, Belgium has blocked 196.4 billion euros (or about $215 billion) worth of transactions and 2.7 billion euros ($3 billion) in Russian assets in the latest figures announced by the Belgian Minister of Finance Vincent Van Peteghem.

    In a statement, the Belgian Finance Ministry said the frozen assets belong to 877 people and 62 entities that appear on the European sanctions list, and the blocked transactions are the result of the other restrictions imposed by the European Union on Russia.

    Additionally, Belgian customs officials have also searched 23,191 containers in Belgian ports since the sanctions began."
     
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    Don't know why the feed ended after Albania spoke. Really wanted to see the Russian squirm & lie. Hope they have that later.
     
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    Please let this be true & continue

     
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  17. gogator7444

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    Brave Russian protester

     
  18. G8trGr8t

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    bet he didn't write a check to Ukrainians for the millions he made supporting nordstream though. Being hooked on Putin's gas is what likely gave Putin reason to believe that the outcry would be muted.
     
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  20. sierragator

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    The other members of the SC should have walked out when the Russian started spewing his lies.
     
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