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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. red4512

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    Is the US Sun a credible source. Something like this would be on CNN, MSN...., and esp. oversensationistic Fox News.
     
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  2. sierragator

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    So If I use mugshots of Putin at the gun range will that provoke him? asking for a friend......
     
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  3. Swamplizard

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    It was planned way before the conflict
     
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  5. tampagtr

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    No doubt. And you let everyone know in advance the when and where and who, sometimes even invite them to monitor, though they will anyway even if not invited, to ensure it is not misinterpreted. The original piece made it sound like a recently designed provocation
     
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    An updated report says the State Department is working to get him out:

    "Fox News correspondent hospitalized after being injured in Ukraine, network says

    From CNN's Oliver Darcy

    Fox News correspondent Benjamin Hall, who had been deployed in recent weeks to cover the war in Ukraine, has been hospitalized after being injured while reporting near Kyiv, the network said on Monday.

    "We have a minimal level of details right now, but Ben is hospitalized and our teams on the ground are working to gather additional information as the situation quickly unfolds," Fox News chief executive Suzanne Scott said in a memo to employees."
     
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  7. duchen

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    So you buy Putin’s BS. This isn’t about Ukraine wanting to join NATO. Russia would have attacked anyway
     
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  8. reboundgtr

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    Very Cold War troop/equipment levels reminiscent of the large annual NATO exercises. The Reforger and the Autumn Forge series of annual NATO combined arms exercises always made the Soviets uneasy. Those exercises were held from Norway to Turkey.
     
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  9. dingyibvs

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    Of course it's about Ukraine joining NATO. If the West shuts its door then Ukraine would have no choice but to ask for Russian help, essentially giving Putin control of the country. Why would he invade if he can control the country without firing a shot?
     
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  10. duchen

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    You conflate control of the country with NATO? Ukraine wants to join the EU. That is wholly apart from NATO and represents a high degree of economic ties to the west. The E.U. resisted because of the history of corruption. Remember the firing of Shokin? The prime mover was the EU. And, In any event, Putin wants to create a Russian Empire. NATO is just the excuse Russia offered True, joining NATO would be symptomatic of independence from Russia. But, agreeing to not join NATO would have not changed anything for Putin. Not unless Ukraine became a vassal state of Russia
     
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  11. OklahomaGator

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    Agree, Putin doesn't want Ukraine in NATO, doesn't want them in the EU, doesn't even want them to be independent but neutral. He wants total control of Ukraine.
     
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  12. ursidman

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    Trying to convince my wife to take in a Ukrainian refugee

     
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    Should give all the spare Russian mansions to the refugees.
     
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  15. gogator7444

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    There was actually an article (think CNN) where the UK wanted to have all confiscated oligarch properties given to/used by Ukranian refugees. They're also offering 400$ or so each for folks willing to house Ukranian refugees in their homes.
     
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  16. gogator7444

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    Please do. Remove all call centers from there and have hackers scam THEM.

    Didn't India just launch a missile into Pakistan in the last few days? They said it was an accident & Pakistan has somewhat accepted this but on the condition a team from Pakistan is allowed to join India's team. Really not a good time for accidental missile launches, folks.
     
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  17. BLING

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    The Russian side is not “an opposing view”, it’s propaganda. Total bullshit. There is a difference.

    Looking at the footage, I expect 6 figure civilian casualties in these cities. There is no justification for Putin’s actions here. Guy’s a mass murderer, and yeah he already did this in Syria too, but the west looked the other way because it was one of those “shithole countries”. Moving into Europe obviously grabs everyone’s attention. Guy’s probably responsible for a million deaths in his 20+ years. If you think that’s a guy we should be “frienemies” with going forward then I don’t know what to say. Putin has made it impossible.
     
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    The history of the new Ukrainian bio labs Russian propaganda conspiracy theory. thread.

     
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  19. WC53

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    The echos of the propaganda across all of our media is pretty astounding.

    Just amazing how many buy in and get used.
     
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