War in Ukraine

It strikes me as reeeeeeaaallllllyyyyyy stupid that this is being openly debated in public. You’d think something like this would just quietly happen in the middle of the night. Yet, it’s open discussion over the course of several days. Bizarre.

This has to be the most incompetent war in the history of mankind. The Russians showing their supply line incompetence. Their disgusting (criminal) bombardment of civilian areas. Ukraine showing bravery against a much larger and better equipped military, yet their “allies” can’t get their crap together on how to “clandestinely” support them.

 

The US is making it clear that it is trying to avoid a shooting war Witt Russia.

 

That's the mantra and conjecture as far as I know no one from Russia has confirmed this not that they would anyway. Unless you have someone down there on the ground observing what is happening we don't know. Everyone talks about the convoy that is parked and aerial photos confirm this as fact. Yet it is always the same aerial photo that gets shown on the news.

No one as far as I know is at the front lines of the Russian Army reporting the status.

 

the next accurate assessment that Russia authors will be the first one so if that is who you are choosing to believe we will continue to disagree

 

Still not buying it. Maybe that’s the cynic after years of disinformation ( war related ) from Iraq to all the bs it required to sustain forces in Afghanistan for 20 years. Literally any other county in the world could sell Poland 30+yo planes.

 

I'm not choosing to believe the Russians anymore than I am choosing to believe the news outlets and pundits. I am simply asking questions about what I see that doesn't add up.

 

anybody up for a new type of airplane repo? Ukranian arms company offers $500k for working helicopter, $1M for working russian aircraft

Ukrainian Arms Company Offers $1M for Capture of Working Russian Aircraft (msn.com)

 

Possibly Russian propaganda but it was not 8 years ago. The NATO part is recent and should have been a no go for the US. I will say it is very hard to know what is real, but the article makes perfect sense to me. If Zelensky was 100% for his country, he would not have have made the NATO move knowing it would put his people at risk. There was no reason for it. Again, it's hard to know, but the US has screwed up these events in the recent past. Why do you think we got this right? The last thing I have confidence is our government, yet so many here do. Why is that? Did you not witness Afghanistan? This administration is not only dumb, they are incompetent and a danger to each and every citizen of our country.

 

Second russian general killed

Russian Officer Complains About Dead General and Comms Meltdown in Intercepted Call (msn.com)

Ukraine’s defence ministry named the general as Vitaly Gerasimov, chief of staff of the 41st Army, and Bellingcat reported that it had confirmed the death with Russian sources. In its statement, Ukraine’s defense intelligence agency said Gerasimov had been “liquidated” alongside “a number of senior Russian army officers” in fighting near Kharkiv.

If Gerasimov’s death is confirmed, he would be the second Russian general to be killed in Ukraine within a week following the death of the 41st Army’s deputy commander, Andrei Sukhovetsky. A pro-Putin Chechnyan general, Magomed Tushayev, was also reported to have been killed.

Russia’s failure to protect its top-ranking officers backs up reports from Ukraine that the Kremlin’s invasion force is in disarray. On the call released by the Ukrainian defense ministry, one FSB officer can be heard complaining that its encrypted comms system had been destroyed, allowing Ukrainian forces to listen in on Russian military orders.

Bellingcat’s executive director, Christo Grozev, wrote: “In the phone call in which the FSB officer assigned to the 41st Army reports the death to his boss in Tula, he says they’ve lost all secure communications. Thus the phone call using a local sim card. Thus the intercept.”

This is not the worst part. In the phone call in which the FSB officer assigned to the 41st Army reports the death to his boss in Tula, he says they've lost all secure communications. Thus the phone call using a local sim card. Thus the intercept. pic.twitter.com/cgHHo7VaRi

 

I thought it was Clinton who loved to stop at McDs after “jogging.”

 

Wondering how long it will take for the Z to start showing up at white supremacy rallies and maga rallies......

 

Private military firms see demand in Ukraine war

Not surprising.

 

Yale Professor compiles a list of companies still doing business in Russia. McDonald’s, Coca-Cola and Starbucks soon pulled out.

Among executives, board members, analysts and others in the business world in recent days, a “who’s who” list has been floating around, showing which companies have pulled out of Russia amid its attack on Ukraine — and which ones have stayed put.

The spreadsheet, compiled by Yale University professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld and his research team, has become a naughty-or-nice list of sorts, with CEOs trying their best to avoid being placed on the roster of “Companies That Remain in Russia With Significant Exposure.”

Sonnenfeld, who founded the nonprofit Chief Executive Leadership Institute, said he has fielded calls from CEOs asking “why we didn’t have them on the right list, and what they needed to do to either clarify or actually take a more strong stance.”
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He said executives and board members should get past the idea that “somehow there’s a win-win solution” and recognize that forcing an economic collapse on the Russian people is part of preventing a harsher outcome for them.

 

Yep. I think there's going to be a hangover of guilt and embarrassment for the rest of the world no matter how this turns out. I hope Ukraine survives this. I bet if they do, they will go Switzerland one better and every able bodied man and woman will be military trained and armed and ready to shoot to kill anything that sets one foot inside their borders ever again.

 

Big

 

Can’t spell it.

and China always plays the longggg game

 

Per CNN live, Ukraine banning all exports of wheat, sugar, meats, etc, to help make sure it can feed it's people.

Found this interesting...perhaps a hidden reason for invasion?

"Ukraine had been on track for a record year of wheat exports prior to the invasion, while Russia's wheat exports were slowing, according to the US Department of Agriculture."

 

Stay away from MREs. They are a good short-term solution, but long-term wreck havoc on your bowels. Go freeze-dried.

 

From CNN live :

"New York Times withdraws all correspondents from Russia for first time in more than a century

From CNN’s Hannah Ritchie

The New York Times (NYT) has pulled all its correspondents out of Russia, marking the first time in over a century that the paper will have no reporters on the ground there.

"Very sad day for the history of @nytimes in Moscow. Pulling all its correspondents out of the country. We have had reporters there continuously since 1921, with one or two short interruptions due to visa hiccoughs. Not Stalin, not the Cold War, nothing drove us out," Neil MacFarquhar, a former NYT Moscow bureau chief tweeted."

 

Also, UK making it illegal for Russian planes to use their airspace plus:

"The new law gives the government additional powers to detain Russian planes already present in the UK, according to an official press release.

New trade sanctions banning the export of aviation and space-related goods and technology to Russia were announced by the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office on Wednesday.

These include cancelling insurance policies in the sector and prohibiting UK insurers from paying claims."

Apparently Russian airlines don't own any of their planes so the ones that didn't get to Russia are likely to get repossessed. I suppose those on Russian soil will be harder but they won't be able to have insurance etc on them. And good luck if they default/don't return leased planes with getting anything financed later on.