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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. duchen

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    He is hiding somewhere
     
  2. uftaipan

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    I just finished the text — and, mind you, I’m no scholar of international and/or constitutional law — but it looks like the U.S. signed more or less as a witness. There is no specified or implied understanding that we would guarantee Ukraine’s security. That would require a treaty ratified by the Senate, and it would have to clearly articulate the authorization of armed force, such as the North Atlantic Treaty does. I promise you we have nothing like that. I maintain my position that in order for President Biden to use force in support of Ukraine the Congress must grant a specific statutory authorization. The Budapest Memorandum does not give him that power.
     
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  3. channingcrowderhungry

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    It's happening. Dammit
     
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  4. channingcrowderhungry

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    Multiple Ukranian cities are under attack at once
     
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  5. uftaipan

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    So now what? Are we really going to allow this?
     
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  6. channingcrowderhungry

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    It's no win. People aren't ready to stomach ww3 over this. What do you propose?
     
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  7. slayerxing

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    Where’s that smarty pants from earlier in the thread that was saying no way Putin invades Biden is just warmongering because of low ratings lol.

    us can’t sit on their hands or it’ll be ww3 eventually anyways. Gotta be strong in the face of this behavior. See the beginning of ww2.
     
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  8. duchen

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    That guy joined in early February. It was Not hard to figure out why he was here.
     
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  9. OklahomaGator

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    What do you propose?
     
  10. GatorBen

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    For a little bit of levity, at least CNN’s reporter in Kyiv seems to have been told he had his body armor on backwards.
     
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  11. duchen

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    I saw that
     
  12. uftaipan

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    I have stated it. Yes, I say war. How bad and how wide of a war is up to Russia.
     
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  13. gator_lawyer

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    The world could have stopped Hitler if they stood up to him. It's time for the world to stand up to Putin.
     
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  14. slayerxing

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    I’ve posted several strategies previously in this thread. Won’t repeat it here. Just scroll back a couple pages.
     
  15. uftaipan

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    Funny story for another moment of levity in a serious situation:

    When the invasion of Iraq began in March 2003, I was a junior gunship pilot on the flight line at Ali Al Salem Airbase in Kuwait, and Good Morning America was filming live in front of our hangar. Julie Chen (she was hot in those days, by the by) was getting ready to go live when Iraq started raining missiles down on Kuwait. All of the Marines, most of us seeing our first action of any kind, moved swiftly and safely to the shelter, putting on our armor and chemical protective gear in relative calm.

    Julie Chen freaked out.

    She had her chemical booties on her hands and just kept shrieking over and over, “I knew we shouldn’t have left the hotel!” We had a female sergeant go over and dress her by the numbers. At one point the sergeant had to pop Julie over the head to get her to calm down. It wasn’t necessarily funny at the time, but God was it funny later on after the stress broke.
     
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  16. uftaipan

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    For once, you and I are in total agreement.
     
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  17. duchen

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    You are trained. She is a reporter.
     
  18. duchen

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    The Ukrainian ambassador to the U.N. was excellent.
     
  19. channingcrowderhungry

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    I think my only problem with this thought process is we aren't willing to do the same to China. If we're going to rid the world of assholes, dman, there are a bunch of them
     
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  20. uftaipan

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    Point taken. But the press got all of the same training on the gear that we did. The military issued it to them and gave them a practical application class on how to use it. The rest of the media who were there, like Byron Pitts, had no issue. She clearly hadn’t been paying attention.
     
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