When it comes to you now it matters? It should matter in all aspects of human interaction sadly we are seeing it does not and further more we are witnessing nations that find this acceptable behavior.
Actually I'd said as much before. Including Trump. So yes. Let them prove it didn't come from bribes or laundering. Because let's be real, relationships with Putin aren't exactly knitting clubs.
UN needs to establish a corridor. If Russia chooses to fire on UN troops evacuating civilians then it's time to dance.
It’s not about me individually. The distinction between a U.S. individual and a foreign entity matters. The distinction between domestic constitutional rights vs. foreign affairs (internationally sanctioned individuals) matters. We generally allow foreigners full property rights in this county, that doesn’t mean we ought to be a haven for money launderers anymore than the Caymen’s or Cyprus ought to be. Property rights != a black box for organized crime or for state actors.
My sentiments exactly everyone from Clinton, to President Biden, to President Trump or anyone else - file a charge and prove it. If you cannot take the basic steps from the perspective of law we are doomed when it comes to legal recourse.
I'm not saying we should be a haven for money laundering and you know that full well and you can include the state of Delaware in that analysis. I am talking about basic property rights. Imagine your assets being seized by a foreign country. Good luck complaining to the US about it. A product doesn't ship without payment up front.
That potentail is always there but innocent until proven guilty trumps all other claims concerning personal property rights with exception such as emminent domain. Even then property owners must be compensated for their property.
TooHot poster going to bat hard for Russian oligarch “property rights” I did not have on my bingo card.
not interested in US troops engaging in any Kenetic operations. Give them all the weapons they want but hard no American soldiers, sailors , airmen, Marines in any ‘ dance’
I’ve heard below regarding Putin from multiple leaders and those who worked in Russian diplomacy. Below is why it’s a concern to install a “no fly zone”. Which is euphemism for US/NATO jets, Russian jets and SAMs destroying each other. I.e. US vs Russia war in Ukraine skies.
Interesting if true. Putin's wife/girlfriend sent to Switzerland with their 4 kids. Swiss need to revoke their passports and expel them. Does Putin feel they are safer in Switzerland than in Russia? Vladimir Putin hiding Alina Kabaeva, kids in Switzerland
Is there a limit to the number or a means test to the method by which they slauughter innocent women, children, elderly that would justify UN involvement on humanitarikn grounds? Should we permit him to build gas houses like we did hitler?
I am not reading the whole thread. Don’t have time But it seems that we(us and half the world) are not engaging Russia over 1. Fear of what might happen 2. Wanting someone else to do so. Because of this lack of true action we (US and half the world) have taken other measures. Sanctions. To the point of sanctioning and “freezing” assets of Russian millionaires who have not technically done any wrong other than support the leader of their country. Is this the just of it? Personally, I hate reacting or not reacting out of fear. Millions of lives are in danger. America likes to act like the world leader. America wants the world to follow our lead on human rights and green technologies. America wants to be on a pedestal of moral excellence. But now we won’t get our hands dirty to protect the weak? Because Europe won’t? No thanks. But if that is the stance we take do we really want to be freezing assets of billionaires so that they will pressure Putin? How far away are we from holding someone close to Putin for ransom until he backs off? I do not believe in doing whatever it takes in the name of defeating evil. That just leads to you doing evil. I do believe in doing everything with in your power to legally and morally stop evil. Let me be clear. I’m not passing judgement. We all have to draw our lines where we can. If it was my child/wife that was hurt or kidnapped I have zero doubt I would personally blur those lines… but as a nation, I think we should try to make the moral legal stance our line.
From CNN live... "Eight civilians dead after shelling hits district, says Mayor of Kyiv district From CNN staff Eight civilians were killed in the midst of an evacuation in Irpin — a district west of Kyiv that saw intense shelling on Sunday — the mayor of Irpin Oleksandr Markushyn said in a statement on Telegram Sunday. Markushyn said Russians opened fire during an evacuation across a bridge. "A family died," he said, "in front of my eyes two small children and two adults died." Video from the scene showed civilians moving through the checkpoint before an explosion occurred at a crossroads that appeared to be caused by a shell or mortar. "
Tiktok suspending services in Russia, and American Express has joined Visa & Mastercard. There's also continued criticism of both Coca-Cola & McDonalds for not acting.
They're also low on food for workers... from CNN live "Russian forces have switched off some mobile networks and internet at Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant, IAEA says From CNN staff Russian forces have switched off some mobile networks and the internet at Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant, according to Rafael Mariano Grossi, the director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). In a statement, the IAEA said that this meant that “reliable information from the site cannot be obtained through the normal channels of communication.”"
