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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. uftaipan

    uftaipan GC Hall of Fame

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    You mean those two Asiatic Russians who only speak the North Korean dialect?
     
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  2. vegasfox

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    What are you talking about?
     
  3. chemgator

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    Scorecard for the war, updated in January 2025:

    Russia has only gained less than 3,000 square miles since Nov 2022, when they held 40,600 sq. mi. in Ukraine.

    Russia has had 700k casualties while Ukraine has had 400k casualties.

    Russia has lost 20,500 military vehicles and equipment, while Ukraine has lost 7,900.

    Russia has lost 11,900 tanks and armored vehicles, while Ukraine has lost 4,000.

    Russia has lost 305 aircraft while Ukraine has lost 183.

    https://www.russiamatters.org/news/...rd/russia-ukraine-war-report-card-feb-26-2025
     
  4. vegasfox

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    Phone numbers. I'd bet my entire net worth that Ukrainian casualties are double Russian casualties. Probably 7:1 or higher
     
  5. pogba

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    Something your selective reading won't comprehend
     
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    Source: TASS
     
  7. G8trGr8t

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    attacking a swiss owned, panamian flagged vessel in port of odessa

    Vladimir Putin launches attack on ship 'carrying British weapons for Ukraine'

    Russian President Vladimir Putin struck a cargo ship with missiles to "sink" it after unconfirmed Russian sources alleged that the ship carried British weapons to aid Ukraine.

    Two Iskander-M ballistic missiles hit the reportedly Swiss-owned MSC LEVANTE F, a Panama-flagged container ship.
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    According to Ukrainian officials, the missile strike damaged infrastructure and wounded two port workers.

    Ukrainian Vice Prime Minister Oleksii Kuleba denied Russian allegations, stating that the vessel carried "completely civilian cargoes."
     
  8. uftaipan

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    I think that ship was a fair target under the rules of war, even with “completely civilian cargoes.” I’m just surprised that Russia was able to hit a target as small as a container ship, even if it was sitting idle in port. Maybe they were aiming at the customs house, two miles away?
     
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  9. demosthenes

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    Maybe I’m naive on the issue but I would be surprised if Ukraine/UK funneled weapons that close to the front. I figured most weapons were being transported over land from western Ukraine.
     
  10. l_boy

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    While I don’t know I doubt Russia makes that attack before Trump made it obvious he is at best neutral on the conflict.

    Did that display last week at the WH change your opinion of Trumps intentions as to Ukraine?
     
  11. vegasfox

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    Retired Col Douglas MacGregor estimates Russian dead are 90-100k and Ukrainian dead are 1.2 million.
     
  12. pogba

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    Seems like a really astute analyst:

    After Russia's invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Macgregor appeared on three Fox News programs in February and early March to speak in support of Russia's actions. Three days after the war began, he said "The battle in eastern Ukraine is really almost over," and predicted "If [Ukraine] don't surrender in the next 24 hours, I suspect Russia will ultimately annihilate them."

    Macgregor said he believed Russia should be allowed to seize whatever parts of Ukraine it wanted. In his second appearance, he revised his prediction: "The first five days Russian forces I think frankly were too gentle. They've now corrected that. So, I would say another 10 days this should be completely over. ... I think the most heroic thing he could do right now is come to terms with reality. Neutralize Ukraine."
     
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  13. vegasfox

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    MacGregor isn't an analyst. Yes Ukraine is being annihilated. Sadly the US dragged Ukraine into a war it had no chance of winning.
     
  14. uftaipan

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    I think you’re right. No reasons that actual weapons needed to be on that ship. Even if it only contained materials such as food, clothing, medicine, etc that sustained Ukraine’s ability to fight long term, though, that is a legitimate target. I would not hesitate to attack it if I were Russia. The only question is whether the juice is worth the squeeze.
     
  15. G8R92

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    My guess is Vlad's new ally is tipping him off. Happening hours after the Zelensky public spanking...