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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. duggers_dad

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    Leads with “Are you a Russian bot ?” and I’m supposed to be embarrassed ? It goes back farther than 2014, but that was US engineered coup.
     
  2. vegasfox

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    Yanukovych was elected president of Ukraine in 2010. International observers said the election was free and fair.

    Maybe some Nazis in n Western Ukraine objected to the election, I don't know. Are you a Nazi bot?
     
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  3. pogba

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    Ah so is that why he’s hiding in Russia in exile and they overthrew him? Because the Ukrainians love him?
     
  4. pogba

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    I see you don’t know about 2004 elections. Doesn’t surprise me at all
     
  5. duggers_dad

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    Already moving the goalposts ? That was quick!
     
  6. pogba

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    no literally what I was talking about but since you don't even know what the orange revolution is and are spewing "takes" on ukraine it is hopeless
     
  7. citygator

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  8. vegasfox

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    Ukraine was roughly half Russian-speakers. They were the biggest supporters of Yanukovych, who was democratically elected in free and fair elections, according to international observors.
     
  9. pogba

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    So the first time he was "elected" which resulted in the election being overturned due to it not being a fair election and then his subsequent election which resulted in him being ousted for not acting in the best interests of the country don't seem to indicate anything to you?
     
  10. duggers_dad

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    *yawns* I don’t think you bring anything to the table other than tropes and bromides.
     
  11. CaptUSMCNole

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    So we are back to the idea that Trump is a Russian plant? Cannot wait for Christopher Steele to show back up.
     
  12. citygator

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    So we are back to the idea that coddling our enemies and berating our allies is a genius Trump move? Can’t wait for the Jan 6ers to show back up and work on immunity 2.0 tourist moves.
     
  13. duggers_dad

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    Proxy war is unraveling fast. You chickenhawks need to get serious quick and double and triple down on raging Russophobic fusillades and leering epithets. Keep pounding those keyboards until the keys come off!
     
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    We know the Russians won the election here in the US. They are going to get part of Ukraine and Ukraine will get no protection from further invasion. Russia will gear up for round 2 to try again as fast as they can during this administration. Pretty easy to see what is going to happen.

    Why some people support this policy in the US? Because they like Russia more than the Europeans and Ukraine. How is it America first when it strengthens our historical enemies? They cannot provide a valid reason. However, they will claim that they "owned the libs", so I guess that is it?
     
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  15. CaptUSMCNole

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    Then why are you posting a Time cover from 2017?
     
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  16. duggers_dad

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    If anything, America is Israel First … unless I missed where virtually everyone in Congress has a Kremlin minder.
     
  17. pogba

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    Is that why Trump's main policy announcement so far is that he is going to bail Israel out of any and all consequences of how they handled Gaza?
     
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    Israel First. I've never thought about that but I think you're right
     
  19. duggers_dad

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    Yes, it’s monstrous, but is lost on Americans who are focused on fighting Russians to the last dead Ukrainian.
     
  20. PITBOSS

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    To some of the earlier conversations

    Comment below was surprising especially who said it.
    Good article on the top f16 pilot Ukraine lost.


    “We have purposely been slow at training F-16 pilots” for Ukraine, says retired U.S. Air Force Gen. Philip Breedlove, a former supreme allied commander for Europe. “We didn’t want to do it quickly because that might actually affect the war. We in the West are morally and intellectually incapable of conceiving a defeated Russia and a defeated Putin. We could be training more, and we could be training faster.”

    https://www.wsj.com/opinion/did-u-s...205c7?st=hMGUG6&reflink=article_copyURL_share
     
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