War in Ukraine

Putin has said Trump is welcome to talk.

Why is Trump kicking an open door ?

 

No doubt. The sanctions on Iran are a given. He's not afraid to do the same to China, although I am not convinced he really wants to have to. Oil production in mass quantities would bring Russia to their knees. We may have to subsidize the Saudis in some round about way to make it happen. One of the great things about Trump's go hard or go home pardons and EOs is that Putin knows his words aren't empty rhetoric. Something tells me Trump's go hard or go home approach is just getting its start.

 

He told us exactly what he is considering “sanctioning” — he will hit Russia with tariffs in their goods shipped to the US. Because heavens knows how reliant Russia is on the American consumer for Russian made products …

 

The same reason he's citing 1,000,000 Russian deaths.

 

I’ve addressed this. Who’s telling Trump these things ? Russia knows its casualties.

 

Because Trump has TDS?!

 

Your TDS blinds you. "Anything being sold" = oil, gas. And you must have missed the "and various other participating countries" part. i.e. other countries buying Russian oil and gas. Just admit it, he's going to snip their balls. Something Biden couldn't and wouldn't do.

 

Iran is not much of a support system. They can barely support themselves. They are more of a military hardware supplier. China will only continue to support Russia until Putin's cash supply runs out.

 

But the Russian people watched their government treat Donald Trump with respect and utmost sincerity for so long and now Trump is on TV telling them it's a million deaths and Putin is destroying their country from within.....

 

Oh. When he said products sold “by Russia to the United States,” meant products sold to the United States.

I know how much you love tossing the term “TDS” around, but it seems like you’ve caught it bad. No matter what is said or done, you twist it to worship the guy. That’s a sickness in and of itself.

I’m hoping Trump proves to have a great second term. But that doesn’t mean everything he says or does is worship-worthy, nor does it mean that everything he says or does is inane and insult-worthy.

How about you judge the guy in actual merit this time around?

 

It's probably not a good thing for Russia if they lose the additional hardware support Iran provides. I don't agree that China will continue unfettered support for Russia if their economy is being wrecked by savage U.S. tariffs. Considering that the groundwork for these moves has already been long laid by Trump, it leaves little doubt in Moscow such measures would be implemented. I think Russia will flench. But even if all these moves take place, Trump will still leave a diplomatic opening for Putin. Something Biden never understood.

 

There are still a few billion dollars worth of Russian products being imported to the U.S. last time I checked. This is roughly 1% or so of Russia's total export, but President Trump is not going to bring Russia to the table with that. What he's going to bring them to the table with are the "other countries" who are buying the other $500 billion or so of Russian exports. When he tells NATO countries "we banned all Russian imports. You either do the same or we leave NATO." Think they will listen? Probably. There are a number of ways Trump could bring Russia's economy to its knees. But he can't very well do that if the U.S. are still importing Russian products and we are currently.

 

Is Trump's 24 hours up? Is this over?

Trump says he can end the war in 1 day

Well... he has moved on to his answer for everything... TARIFFS!!! Those should work in 24 hours.

Trump threatens Russia with tariffs and sanctions if Ukraine war doesn't end : NPR

Surely it wont last 4 more years and Trump can take credit for it ending eventually.

 

The Ukraine in three days trope hands the torch to the Trump in in 24 hours trope.

 

At a CNN town hall in May 2023, Trump said: “They’re dying, Russians and Ukrainians. I want them to stop dying. And I’ll have that done — I’ll have that done in 24 hours.”

 

He will need to enlist the likes of China, for starters. If he’s able to that, then he’s better than I think he is. As of yesterday, Putin and Xi announced they remained best pals, so Trump has a tough road ahead.

The Western Nations have collectively sanctioned Russia already at an unprecedented level. Other than what has been done, what else do you see the West feasibly doing to punish their economy more than it already has been punished?

 

Roughly 20% of Russians exports still go to Europe. 12-15% to India. And many other countries still importing Russian oil, gas and other goods, commodities. You can make it cost prohibitive for these countries to continue to import from Russia, while driving the price of oil lower worldwide. A 25% drop to Russia's exports and a decline of oil to $40 a barrel would put Russia's economy into a crisis. And I do believe China's attitude changes if the U.S. slaps 100% tariffs on most of their products for the sole reason they continue to support Russia.

So I think you'll see some movement to the table before Putin gets too much egg on his face at home.

 

Americans having to reckon with their country’s relative impotence.

 

I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about what I think the President will actually do if the Russians don’t come to the table. His countenance almost suggests he doesn’t want them to (because no deal you could get right now would be very favorable to Ukraine, frankly) so he can implement a few punishing measures and make Russia more malleable six months from now. As you know, I am not the President’s greatest fan, but I wish him the very best success in sticking it to Russia. Until he actually fails, I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this issue.

 

I hope you’re right it sounds good in theory.