War in Ukraine

I still question whether or not Russia is truly interested in closing off the Kursk front anytime soon, because we both know they could if they wanted to dedicate the resources necessary there to do so. It seems to me the Russian strategy is to keep the distraction open-ended for the Ukrainians in Kursk whilst they chip away at more territory in the Donbas, knowing full well the Ukrainians have no long-term plans for occupying the small sliver in the Kursk region post-war and that Zelenskyy will almost inevitably cede the current front lines in the Donbas as the new borders post-war.

From that standpoint, it seems Zelenskyy is shooting his country in the foot and I don't have to remind you, the Ukrainians initiated this undertaking without the blessing of the U.S. We do have to consider the possibility that the inexperience and exuberance of the young Zelenskyy could indeed be costing his country additional territorial losses in their own backyard.

 

If an ambulance driver can be converted into a tank commander overnight, maybe they could make him a colonel and no one would notice.

 

You've got to be out of your mind. Kursk is an absolute humiliation for Putin, no matter how you want to spin it. Russia spent 2.5 years invading and marauding in another country with near complete immunity for their own citizens. Now the enemy is on Russian soil. That gives the impression that the war may be going worse than what the Kremlin claims. Putin is not in complete control of this war, and he can't hide that from the Russian people. Putin himself gave the military a deadline of December 20, 2024 for all Ukrainians to be removed from Kursk. The military created the largest tank battle since 1943, and then lost that battle . . . BADLY. It was a rout. A major defeat. It's nice of you to want to whitewash such a horrific defeat for Russia, but you should probably try to stay in the same zip code as the truth.

Zelenskyy has no intention of walking away from Kursk during the negotiations unless he gets Russia to give up some of eastern Ukraine.

 

C'mon, mane. Any objective observer can see that Putin has NK troops in Kursk for obvious reasons. If Putin was truly worried about Kursk, he would not have unfamiliar NK soldiers who are even more poorly trained than his own holding the status quo there. He is using NK troops as cannon fodder to soften the Ukrainian lines in the south, while making incremental gains there. Facts that are indisputable at this stage:

1. any peace deal will involve Ukraine leaving Kursk or any territory which is considered Russia proper.
2. any peace deal will freeze the lines in the south and east of Ukraine and that line will effectively become the new border between the two nations.

The ROI in Kursk for Ukraine is a negative figure. Nobody cares about anybody's feelings at this point.

 

Neither of those are “facts” even if likely or they end up being true. It’s speculation at this point based on inferences you’ve drawn. I think a valid case could be made for “trading” territory which could be the reason to push Russia in Kursk where they don’t have as many defenses built up.

 

A symbolic humiliation for mighty Russia to have a foreign army on its soil. Also a bargaining chip if negotiations happen.

 

lol at Ukraine kicking Putin in the nads.

 

If you think Russia is going to give up territory in the Donbas in exchange for the small sliver in the Kursk region, you're smoking something very potent. As I've said, if Putin was truly keen on retaking the small sliver of Kursk which Ukraine still holds (that area has shrunken dramatically in the past two months), he wouldn't have NK troops in there doing the heavy lifting. You can keep dreaming though. If nothing else, it would be too easy for Putin to say no to the suggestion and simply push the Ukrainian troops out after the peace deal is signed. The EU and US having not signed onto the idea in the first place, would do absolutely zero to Russia for re-taking the land in the Kursk region, post ceasefire.

 

Planet Fitness’ Lunk Alarm goes off …

 

Once again doing incredible gymnastics to justify Russian losses. My god man. You might as well say, of course Russia could win the war anytime if they wanted. It’s hilarious how your narrative has shifted throughout the war to try to make Russia look better. Going back to literally the beginning.

 

I never once made a conclusive statement as to the outcome; that’s what you do repeatedly in your posts. All I said is that there would be merit to the strategy. I agree that the area Ukraine has taken in Kursk is quite small, maybe 5% of the Ukrainian territory that Russia has seized. I believe it’s a political black eye for Putin so it would carry additional weight if Ukraine still has control during negotiations.

 

I interpret Putin's handling of the Kursk situation sort of like when the Nazis offered to return Stalin his son Yakov (taken as a prisoner of war by the Nazis in 1941) in exchange for German Field Marshal Friedrich Paulus, whom the Soviets took as POW at Stalingrad in 1943. Stalin's response to the Germans was "I have no son named Yakov."

 

At least we’re not hearing the three days trope so much anymore. Now we’re down to if Russian isn’t losing why are they methodically encircling Pokrovsk instead of just barging in with meat waves ? Where would we be without the armchair generals ?

 

Russian troops have advanced to 2 km outside Sudzha. They re-take Sudzha and the Kursk invasion is done.

 

At which time Russia will close Roach Motel.

 

What makes you think the NK soldiers are less well trained than the Russians?

Kursk is a bargaining chip for Ukraine when both sides sit down to discuss a resolution to the war. It is something that Putin has to get back to save face. The ROI for Kursk could end up being very high.

 

Looks like that’s the only town of consequence in Ukrainian controlled area of Kursk.