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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. vegasfox

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    Are any UkrainIan men still volunteering to fight the Russians? Aren't almost all of the men going to the Frontline because they're forced to do so? What happens when 30% or so try to flee? They end up fighting with other Ukrainian soldiers. Some are changing sides and joining Russian forces. But as long as the price of butter in Moscow is rising we should keep the war going?

    The number of Ukrainian soldiers declines daily. The quality of the soldiers is declining because many or most of their best fighters have been killed or wounded. Meanwhile Russia keeps rotating in fresh troops and the number of soldiers they have in the war zone is growing.
     
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  4. chemgator

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    And that's why Europe is concerned about the possibility of Ukraine collapsing and Russia invading other countries. They know better than to believe in Putin's lies. Surprising that so many Americans are dimwitted enough to believe anything Putin says, but they are products of a failing education system.
     
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  5. CHFG8R

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    Can't wait to hear your boy "Alexander's" take . . . er, spin on Syria. Nothing says strength like abandoning an ally and a key naval base, right?
     
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  6. chemgator

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    Ukraine has a new weapon. It is a drone-missile with twice the range of an ATACMS missile, with the ability to strike targets within 435 miles.

    Ukraine just gave a first look at its new homemade Hell 'drone-missile' with more than twice the range of ATACMS

     
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  7. vegasfox

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    Ir was clear the US, Saudi Arabia and Israel would start a war in Syria in 2007. The plan was to back Al Qaeda and other bad actors to destabilize Assad, because Syria is friends with Israel's enemy Iran.

    Russia went into Syria to kill terrorists that are backed by the US, Israel, KSA and several other countries.

    Did you know that the US backed Al Qaeda in Syria? Did you know that the US helped create ISIS?

    Not sure what naval base you're referring to. Sevastopol? Russia leased that base from Syria. If Ukraine hadn't tried to ethnically cleanse and oppress Russian-speakers and start a proxy war with Russia they'd still have the Donbas and Crimea.
     
  8. CHFG8R

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    Good one dude! Complete and total BS, but at least you tried.

    One of their most crucial naval bases in the world, but no big deal. We were going to give it up all along. LOL! You're always good for a belly laugh.
     
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    Putin's "niece" got in trouble for daring to mention the numbers but she's blood so no balcony special for her
     
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  10. vegasfox

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    You do know Russia leased the base at Sevastopol? My recollection is Russia signed a 40 year lease to use the base. The US installed puppet president of Ukraine (2014) implied he might break the lease and not long after Ukraine lost Crimea. Another great move by US neocons who paid Ukraine to do our bidding.
     
  11. OklahomaGator

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    I think the point is that Turkey usually prohibits warships passing through the Turkish strait during times of war, so how will Russia's Mediterranean fleet get there?
     
  12. CHFG8R

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    Yeah dude, Sevastopol. That's what we're talking about.
     
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    Ukraine knows that Trump will abandon them. These are the type weapons they need to manufacture and use. Europe can supply the parts. Ukraine isnt going to bow down to Trump and agree to his cease fire conditions.
     
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  14. vegasfox

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    The Obama administration and the puppeti president they installed in Ukraine behaved badly so Crimeans voted to become part of Russia. 50 years earlier the Soviets gave Crimea to Ukraine. Now it belongs to Russia. Neocons aren't good at foreign policy is your point? Or are you trying to blame Trump for what happened in 2014?
     
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    Russian general Vasely Gerasim9lov called the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, CQ Brown, and mentioned the capability of Russia's Oreshnik missile among other things. The US got the message and decided not to fire any more ATACMS at Russia. Draw your own conclusions

     
  16. OklahomaGator

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    Do you have a link for that or were you on the call too?
     
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    Will US-backed terrorist finally topple the Assad regime ? How long before the Al Qaeda leader speaks in Congress to a rousing ovation ?
     
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  19. uftaipan

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    Well, let’s be fair. Events are occurring rapidly here. Whichever FSB troll you’re talking to probably hasn’t gotten his new talking points yet about Tartus, probably isn’t even aware that Russia’s strategic position in the Mediterranean is collapsing. Give it time. By the end of the day you will have a better sense of how this is all a part of Putin’s calculated strategic genius.
     
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  20. uftaipan

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    That keeps getting less and less likely as Russia progressively loses leverage in any future negotiations.