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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. duggers_dad

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    In this U.S. proxy war* to see Putin ousted and Russia weakened, I see no evidence that the U.S. is trying to prevent WWIII. Credit would have to go to Putin for his softly but softly approach which has a portion of the Russian public borderline enraged.

    *I could have said NATO proxy war, but we all know the U.S. calls the shots.
     
  2. duggers_dad

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    To the contrary, it is Russia which strikes military targets, some times sadly killing civilians.

    Contrast that with the Ukronazis spitefully shelling Russian civilians in Belgorod at present.

    That said, you are to be commended for your wildly improbable track record of never having been right about anything since February 2022.
     
  3. duggers_dad

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    More of there are no Nazis in Ukraine …

     
  4. chemgator

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    A blind man never sees evidence, Lee Harvey. He just believes what his handlers (in your case, Russian mil-bloggers or the people who quote them) tell him or he imagines what the evidence is and repeats that.

    The U.S. is not using nuclear weapons on Russia, and is not directly attacking Russia with U.S. soldiers. What more does the U.S. need to do? Mind you, this is better than what Russia did in years past. Not only did the USSR provide weapons to North Korea in a proxy war with the U.S., they also sent Russian military pilots to fly Russian military aircraft to shoot down U.S. planes and kill U.S. pilots in the Korean War. I don't know why anyone would be clueless enough to credit Putin for his "softly but softly" approach, but no, the vast majority of the Russian public is not enraged with U.S. and NATO support of Ukraine. They know that Russia is in the wrong with this invasion. Russian mil-bloggers are enraged at this, but everything short of taking over the world seems to enrage them.

    It seems that Russia's mounting losses in this war are causing what's left of your brain to go "softly but softly" into fatigue and senility.
     
  5. chemgator

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    Only an idiot would conclude anything about an entire country based on one person from that country, Lee Harvey. Especially one that appears to be 19 or so. I could show you a picture of a British royal family member in a Nazi uniform--would that mean that Britain is a country full of Nazis?
     
  6. chemgator

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    Such ignorance from you, Lee Harvey. Your Russian handlers are making you work overtime with the lies this week.

    Russia's most effective weapon in this war is the massive but inaccurate glide bomb, which they like to use on cities.

    Russia has had multiple indiscriminate missile attacks on large cities like Kiev, destroying apartment buildings, hospitals, kindergartens, etc.

    They opened torture centers when they first invaded Ukraine.

    Most of the damage to Russian civilians appears to have occurred when Russia shot down drones and the drones damaged people and property as they fell.

    A lot of violations of the Geneva Conventions from the Russians in this conflict. That's why Putin is wanted in the Hague for war crimes, and not Zelenskyy.
     
  7. G8trGr8t

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    this isn't good, Germany ready to turn their back on Ukraine to try and win the national election?

    Germany's Far Right Thuringia Victory Ominous Sign for Ukraine - Newsweek

    The success of Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) in two state ballots in Germany follows rhetoric that included opposing Berlin's support for Ukraine, delivering a concerning message for Kyiv, a year out from a federal election.

    After Sunday's vote, the AfD became the first far right party to win a state legislature election in Germany since the World War II, garnering 32.8 per cent of the vote ahead of the 23.6 percent of the mainstream Christian Democrats (CDU).

    In the neighboring Saxony region, the AfD came a close second with 30.6 percent. Another anti-establishment party, the left-nationalist BSW (Sahra Wagenknecht Alliance) secured 11.8 percent of the vote in Saxony and 15.8 percent in Thuringia. The AfD and BSW are both critical of Berlin supplying weapons to Kyiv and Western sanctions against Russia, and have called for negotiations to end the war in Ukraine.

    Wagenknecht, a former communist seen by many as an apologist for Putin, has made changing Germany's policy on Ukraine a precondition for any talks with Germany's ruling coalition. Carsten Nickel, from corporate consulting, strategy and advisory firm Teneo, said in a note that voters had "vented their anger" at the coalition's infighting within the context of conflicts over migration "and major challenges associated with the Russian invasion of Ukraine," CNBC reported.
     
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  8. duggers_dad

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    Mass anti-Putin rally in Mongolia. I counted seven protestors.
     
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    From a retired German tank commander …

    The Kursk incursion was a political theater piece designed to have a short term propaganda effect. It was paid for with the lives of Ukrainian soldiers. A way too height price for little effect. The mass of Ukrainian material that was destroyed in the campaign means that Ukraine has now thrown away any future attack potential its army still had.

    Kofman and Lee know this. But they are still too timid to say so.

    Still - its sounds like they have given up on it.

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/
     
  11. duggers_dad

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    Civilians my ass …

     
  12. Gatorhead

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    That is narly. And people think coach Napier is on the hot seat.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    Decline of an Empire captured on video …

     
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  14. chemgator

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    Only a moron fixates on the size of a desk and ignores the ideas behind the story completely, Lee Harvey. Only a moron.
     
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  15. Gatorhead

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    Why bother chem.............. Bot, Ski Troll, Propogandist, Putin election interferer, traitor or just plain loser. Perhaps a sado masochist that loves him some
    dictator, lol
     
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  16. duggers_dad

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    Putin >>> Biden.
     
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  17. duggers_dad

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    Like the morons who fixate on Trump’s hair style and skin color while ignoring the larger story which is that the POTUS is frail and demented, Ted Bundy brother of Al.
     
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  18. chemgator

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    The Russians were listening to you, Lee Harvey, and decided to provide evidence, sending a missile to a city on the western edge of Ukraine with no military value, which killed three young girls and their mother:

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/europe/ukraine-safe-haven-city-family-killed-intl/index.html

    What merciful barbarians the Russians are, attacking little girls with missiles.
     
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  19. chemgator

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    Her is a post for our very own Russian troll, Lee Harvey. See, Justice won't come after you. You aren't guilty of any "legal wrongdoing" as far as they can tell. So keep on pocketing your share of that $10 million, no reason to feel guilty about selling out your country, as well as freedom and democracy.

    Right-wing influencers were duped to work for covert Russian influence operation, US says

     
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  20. chemgator

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    There are hardly any websites sponsored by the Kremlin to sow discord in the U.S. and promote Donald Trump for president. Only 32 of them.

    US accuses Russian state media of enlisting right-wing influencers to meddle in election

     
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