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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. chemgator

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    One positive is that there will not be any S-300 or S-400 missile defense systems in this area of Russia while Ukraine holds it. It might allow a Patriot system or two to move in and help defend against the aircraft that are using glide bombs, and limit how close they can get to the front, or force them to take a pathway from the south. It might also provide safety for Ukrainian aircraft to get close enough to attack these aircraft.
     
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    Russia's crappy naval warships cannot even sit in port without catching fire. (This one is a former Russian ship, but it is an aircraft carrier.) This thing couldn't even sit and rot in a lagoon without catching fire. And it probably wasn't Ukraine that did it, considering that it was parked in the Yang-tze River. I don't think Ukraine's drones can go that far.

    Soviet Aircraft Carrier Turned Failed Chinese Tourist Attraction Is On Fire (Updated)

    If you are wondering if I am going to get double duty out of this article, I am. :)
     
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  3. chemgator

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    The robo-dogs are British, which means they can be disabled by playing a recording of King Charles' coronation. The dogs are known as "BAD" dogs because of their habit of turning on whomever is closest to them, or uses bad grammar.

    British-supplied robo-dogs sent to battlefield in Ukraine

     
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    I don’t think Patriots are the answer, since the whole idea of glide bombs is that the aircraft release them beyond the max effective range of ground-based systems. I think the F-16s, though, have long-range anti-air munitions that can outrange the Russian aircraft. But even that is not a complete solution. There are just not enough F-16s yet. I think we need to procure a cost-effective system that can hit the glide bombs themselves. You could not protect the whole front that way, but you could probably add sufficient defense at the strongpoints where the Russians are most likely to use them.
     
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  5. G8trGr8t

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    it appears that they may have also taken out multiple senior generals, I have to think there may be more than one thinking about fighting back

    Vladimir Putin begins 'purge' of top generals after he accused Nato of playing part in Kursk invasion (msn.com)

    Vladimir Putin is set to launch a 'purge' of his top generals following the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk.

    The Russian president is set to wield the axe against Kremlin army chiefs after their failures in Kursk, which led to the loss of 400 square miles of home soil.

    Former Ukrainian adviser Anton Gerashchenko has claimed that sources within Russia indicated that "criminal cases are being prepared" for top military brass.

    There are reports thatPutin is particularly angry at Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov, who was suspiciously missing from Moscow's crunch Security Council meeting last Friday.
     
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  6. G8trGr8t

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    1. pick up a lot of intel (train station control room had a ton of info on train movements around the country and possibly still able to control parts of railroads elsewhere)
    2. disrupted railroads and related logistics
    3. embarrass the military leadership which causes Putin to overreact and make all the remaining leaders wonder if they need to formulate a plan B to protect themselves
    4. fight on ground not heavily mined which allows easier armor movement?
    5. capture hostages to take them out of use by Putina and to use for exchanges
     
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  7. G8trGr8t

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    will these take out glide bombs?

    or could EW be used to change the control fins of the glide bombs

    Ukraine to receive Frankenstein air defense tank from Rheinmetall (kyivindependent.com)

    The Frankenstein air defense tank consists of an advanced German Skyranger anti-aircraft gun mounted on a Leopard 1 battle tank. The system can shoot down both drones and missiles, according to the outlet.

    "There are still many Leopard 1 main battle tanks on whose chassis we could mount the Skyranger turret with the 35 mm caliber automatic cannon," Bjorn Bernhard, the head of land systems at Rheinmetall, said in an interview with the German tabloid Bild.

    The recently developed Skyranger system has sophisticated sensors with a 360-degree view of the battlefield and is capable of dealing with drones, according to The Telegraph.
     
  8. chemgator

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    This could be a game-changer: Ukraine might get missiles for their F-16's that can hit targets up to 230 miles away. The new missiles should JASSM-up the F-16's capabilities.

    Also, Ukraine might get Tom Cruise to play a Ukrainian pilot in Top Gunski, their new blockbuster movie about defeating the Russians.

    Ukraine's F-16s may be getting long-range cruise missiles to hit targets hundreds of miles away: report

     
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  9. chemgator

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    Well, it is coup season in Russia right now, so you have to expect Putin to remove a few potential rivals . . .
     
  10. chemgator

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    Is it possible that Ukraine has a significant number of F-16's, but wants Russia to think they only have six or so? Then at some point, they could unleash a massive air attack on Russia and, once again, catch them off-guard. That would explain occasionally seeing the F-16 flying around Ukraine in groups of six or less. It is less than 470 miles from Kiev to Moscow.
     
  11. G8trGr8t

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    Lukashenko saying nyet

    Lukashenko resists pressure to join Russia's fight against Ukraine (msn.com)

    What Tsikhanouskaya says is very likely. The Belarusian dictator, Alexander Lukashenko, has been reluctant to engage in the war from the start. Although he provided Belarusian bases and training grounds and supplied Russia with more than 71,600 tons of ammunition, hundreds of T-72A tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, and Ural trucks in the first year of the war, it wasn't for free. The Kremlin had to write off part of Belarus's debt and increase economic aid.

    Lukashenko negotiated firmly each time. He knew that Putin was cornered and that without Minsk's help, he could lose face, so he took every possible advantage.

    Currently, the Kremlin buys optical instruments, targeting systems, electronic equipment, fire control systems, specialized wheeled vehicles, and other items from Belarusian factories. The Russians have invested significant resources in developing the Belarusian industry and are now taking full advantage of the services offered by the local military-industrial complex.
     
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    Captured Russian Recruits Say They Weren't Prepared: "We Didn’t Want to Fight" (msn.com)

    In a prison basement in northeastern dozens of young Russian soldiers are being kept as prisoners of war. They were captured during recent fighting between Russia and Ukraine, and they are not seasoned veterans but young recruits. They were part of the Russian force that was unexpectedly thrust into combat following Ukrainians incursion into Russia's Kursk region.

    Many of the captives are conscripts serving their mandatory one-year military service, and were not anticipated to see compat, according to Ziare. Their capture poses a significant challenge for the Kremlin and tests Ukraine’s ability to handle a large number of Russian POWs, who could be valuable in future negotiations.

    President Vladimir Putin had assured that recruits would not be sent into combat. Despite this, some conscripts found themselves in Ukraine. Most recruits were stationed along Russia's western border, with the expectation that they would not face direct combat.

    One captured soldier, Nikolai, 22, expressed frustration, stating:"We didn’t want to fight in any way." He described how recruits were promised they would not participate in hostilities.
     
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    I am not sure I would support this move. So far our military aid has mostly consisted of surplus, obsolete, or expiring gear and/or munitions. It has not been stuff we would need in a hurry in the event, say, China invades Taiwan. That would not be the case with this particular weapon system. Now if the President would invoke the DPA and start cranking out these systems at a rate that meets our needs and Ukraine’s, then that’s a different matter. I would fully be behind that.
     
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  14. chemgator

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    Mother Nature shows her angry side with Russia, unleashing an earthquake and volcano in far-eastern Russia. Just one more distraction for Russia's government.

    Volcano erupts in Russia after 7.0 magnitude earthquake, sending ash column 5 miles high

     
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    What is it good for?
     
  16. uftaipan

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    (sighs) What is what good for?

    War? Absolutely nothing. Say it again, ya’ll.
     
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  17. chemgator

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    The U.S. may need to ramp up military support for Ukraine. Germany has stopped its support of Ukraine due to financial problems. If the world is heading into recession, it could be a race to see which side can continue to get and provide funding (and weapons) in difficult times. This should be a lesson for the repub-tards--slow-playing support for Ukraine is only going to increase government spending when you can least afford it. It's the gift that keeps on giving (or taking, depending on your perspective). Not ensuring Russia's defeat in this war would be something that would haunt the U.S. for decades. A golden opportunity for peace and prosperity, pissed away by morons (no offense intended).

    Germany freezes Ukraine military aid as budget crisis hits at home

     
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    More on Putin's incompetence and lack of any experience with anything military. Putin has assigned overlapping tasks to the Ministry of Defense, the State Security Service, and the national guard, making each one incapable of solving any of the problems, and making none of them responsible for anything in particular.

    Russian troops descend on Kursk with ‘greater force’

     
  19. G8trGr8t

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    I wonder if the gas pipeline explosion is the reason for the "budget crisis"
     
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  20. proudgator1973

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    Is it possible that there are enough F-16s but not enought Ukranian pilots trained to fly them?