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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. duggers_dad

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    How them sanctions doin’?

     
  2. G8trGr8t

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    Ze wants permission to use long range weapons on russian airfields and planes over Russia. Seems like a reasonable request

    Destroy Russian airfields used to bomb Ukraine, says Volodymyr Zelenskyy (msn.com)

    We can steer this war towards its just ending with the power of our weapons and our diplomacy," Zelenskyy said.

    "We should not fear these capabilities. The more effective our air defense is, the more helpless [Russian dictator Vladimir] Putin will be. The fewer restrictions we have on the use of effective weapons, the more Russia will seek peace. Military airfields, from which Russian jets take off with bombs against our cities, our people, our children, and launch sites of Russian missiles must be destroyed."
     
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  3. PITBOSS

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    Doesn’t Ukraine have the green light to attack into Russia? on some limited guideline. I’m not quite following what they can bomb vs restrictions.
     
  4. duggers_dad

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    Ukraine can and has been striking into Russia. Problem is its strikes amount to pin pricks vs Russian hammer blows.
     
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    It is not public knowledge (I don’t know either) because we don’t want Russia to know precisely what the limitations are, but there are limitations.
     
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  7. PITBOSS

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    Imo that’s a good thing. Zelenskyy can hopefully build a link as a fellow world leader. Better than trump being in a vacuum, going with maga conspiracy themes. it’s well known building trumps ego helps. But Zelenskyy has to be careful not to aggravated Biden. Biden is still the gate keeper of $ billions of best-in-the-world military aid s (albeit our older equipment). And Biden right now is quite distracted and cornered.
     
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  8. okeechobee

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    Trump be like: yo Z, remember that investigation we talked about a few years ago?

    Zelenskyy: Yes, I understand, sir. Say no more.
     
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  9. duggers_dad

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    Grownup enters the room.
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    Insight into what happened to the Russians who fled the country early in the war …

     
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    Must suck being on a phone call with Trump and having to pretend that you don't know that everything he says is probably a lie.
     
  12. duggers_dad

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    Instead he trusted Biden which had the net effect of ravaging an entire generation of men and reducing much of his country to rubble.
     
  13. chemgator

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    His people still have their freedom, which I realize that is something that you do not value, others do. And only a small fraction of the country has been reduced to rubble, while most Ukrainian men are doing just fine. At the rate Russia is going, it will take them centuries to take over Ukraine. Fairly certain that they will run out of steam before then. Yes, your Russian army is THAT weak, Lee Harvey. Get over it.
     
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    Every day that Russia is stalled in a country they could have overrun in weeks is another day that shows how inept Russia is. Imagine a navy getting their ass handed to them by a country without a navy or a strong Air Force. Tough to imagine being that incompetent.
     
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  15. okeechobee

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    It’s intentional. Russia will attempt to take the remainder of Donetsk oblast before November and they’ll hold serve from that point with the expectation Trump will force both sides to the table. The war will end.
     
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  16. duggers_dad

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    His people still have their freedom, except his people who are press-ganged on the street and sent to the frontlines to die, except his people who want to access alternative media, except his people who want to attend the church of their church. And I gather that the looming shortage, for Russia, is Ukrainians left to kill, Vicky Nuland.
     
  17. chemgator

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    Russia is re-educating its youth to become "little Putins" and worship the Russian Empire. College students are being told that Russia will be the new Roman Empire. All they have to do is trick the stupid, gullible Americans (or 51% of them) with their propaganda.

    Russia is spending millions to create a new generation of militant Putin clones

    Another country about a century ago started re-educating its youth to worship the warrior culture as part of their God-given obligation to take over the world, and, ironically enough, stupid, gullible Americans did not oppose them until they declared war on the U.S. They were the Nationalist Socialists of Germany, or Nazis for short.

    Russia may be a long way from taking over the world, but they are certainly heading in the direction of trying to make that happen. Only the cowardice of ignorant Americans can help them make progress toward that goal. By not supporting Ukraine against Russia, they are committing the U.S. to a World War III scenario with Russia, but are not smart enough to realize that yet, and will wait until Russia declares war on the U.S. and surprises us with a massive attack. Nice.
     
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  18. duggers_dad

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    I would have thought that getting run out of Afghanistan, by goat herders; after twenty years and a trillion dollars, would have been enough to chasten breast-beating Muricans.
     
  19. chemgator

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    What about his people behind the Russian lines? How free are they? And why would so many people evacuate to Poland and other countries if they were free in Ukraine? My version of freedom includes a minimum level of safety from being bombed and gunned down (not to mention being forcibly taken to Russian torture centers). When will you ever learn, Lee Harvey? It's almost like you are stuck in a propaganda time warp in the 1960's.
     
  20. duggers_dad

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    When the US rescued children from Vietnam it was a humanitarian gesture. When Russia rescues children from war-torn areas it’s kidnapping. Get it, Tokyo Rose ?