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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. okeechobee

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    We know how the Israelis feel about the Palestinians. Russians consider Ukrainians brothers and vice versa. It wouldn't be in Russia's strategic interests to target civilians in Ukraine. They're not looking to move Ukrainians off their land. Most likely the civilian targets that have been hit are occupied by sensitive Ukrainian military units or what Russia believe to be military targets cloaked in residential dwellings. Otherwise, yes, as the comparison notes, we know Russia have no shortage of munitions and missiles.
     
  2. VAg8r1

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    Russians may consider Ukrainians brothers although Putin believes that it may be necessary to punish or eliminate those that do not want to join or remain in the family as Vladimir sees it.
     
  3. gatorpa

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    Are you saying the children’s hospital was a secret weapons depot…..?
     
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  4. sierragator

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    or as a certain republican recently said: this can be bloodless if our victims allow for that.
     
  5. demosthenes

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    Kyiv is not launching military operations so the act of sending 38+ missiles into a city and hitting a children’s oncology hospital is pretty damn dispicable whether or not their missiles missed their targets. Russia’s used to bombing its own cities so I guess they don’t see much of an issue with sending missiles into dense civilian areas like Ukraine’s capital.
     
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    Given the poor intelligence Russia has acted on to date and the roughly 60% miss rate of their “precision-guided” munitions, you’ll forgive me if I am reluctant to believe that Russia uncovered Ukrainian perfidy in hiding sensitive military in a facility protected by the Geneva Convention and then actually hit it with the intended effect. I’m going to go with the far more likely scenario that they didn’t mean to hit a children’s hospital but aren’t particularly broken up about the mistake either.
     
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  7. chemgator

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    Sure, sometimes the media protects a president regarding physical (or even mental) imperfections, but that's not unusual, and it does not indicate partisanship. They protected FDR by not exposing the fact that he used a wheelchair. They protected GWB by not emphasizing his verbal gaffes, at least until it couldn't be kept secret anymore. No president is going to be perfect. Exposing every minor imperfection is not going to make the country (or the world) any better. Good journalists feel that they have a higher calling, and believe that their work results in a better country. Established journalists generally did not mock Donald Trump even as rumors swirled around him, and he continued to say outrageous things. Once Trump, as an ex-president, was convicted of multiple felonies, and lost a civil suit for rape, the gloves were off.
     
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  8. okeechobee

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    I am saying Amnesty International has been highly critical of some of the tactics Ukrainian military have used hiding in schools and yes, hospitals to use as cover.
     
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  9. chemgator

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    Russia is engaging in "hybrid" attacks on the rest of Europe, in a bid to intimidate Europe. Murder here, arson there, mayhem somewhere else. Putin has decided that Russia cannot be held responsible for the actions of one or two Russians, so turn 'em loose and see what happens.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/30/europe/russia-hybrid-war-nato/index.html

    If you support Russia and its "peaceful" policies, then you support terrorism and murder, and by definition, you are a terrorist. We're looking at you, Lee Harvey.
     
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  10. demosthenes

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    So you’re going with a children’s oncology ward in the heart of Kyiv, more than 400 km from the frontlines, was secretly housing military targets. Brilliant.
     
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  11. okeechobee

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    If indeed it was not a military concern at all, then yes, that would be evil and appalling. To be fair though, there have been multiple reports (in Western media) of Ukraine sending attack drones and such into residential areas of Russia. Two wrongs don’t make a right though.
     
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    A Ukrainian missile hits a children's hospital and all of the "useful idiots blame Russia. I debunked this nonsense in 90 seconds yesterday
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    Yes, but Russia is running out of washing machine microprocessors for their missiles.
     
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    When the ISW is telling you it’s over …

     
  17. G8trGr8t

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    the game of thrones beign played out in Russia will make for an excellent mini-series one day if the truth is ever outed

    Mystery as Russian General Linked to Shoigu Found Dead (msn.com)

    Magomed Khandayev, a Russian Defense Ministry official, has died unexpectedly at the age of 61, state-run agencies reported on Tuesday. Khandayev had served as head of the state examination department of Russia's Defense Ministry since June 2023. The cause of his death or where he died has not been disclosed.

    The head of the Shamilsky District in Russia's Dagestan Republic, Magomed Gasanov, told Tass that Khandayev's body been flown to the city of Makhachkala, and that he would be buried in his native village of Genta. Russian newspaper Kommersant reported that Khandayev was a direct subordinate to former Deputy Defense Minister Timur Ivanov, who was arrested on corruption charges in April.

    A number of high-ranking military officials have been arrested since April, including Yuri Kuznetsov, the head of the Russia's Defense Ministry's personnel department. Meanwhile, Sergei Shoigu was replaced as defense minister after holding the position for 12 years, in a surprise shake-up of the department.
     
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  18. G8trGr8t

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    heat wave, fuel shortages, and drone strikes put parts of southern russia into a blackout

    Southern Russia in blackout: Heatwave and drone attacks to blame (msn.com)


    In many southern regions of Russia, there is currently no power. According to the latest Russian daily "Kommersant data," nearly 600,000 people are cut off from electricity supplies. The Ministry of Energy claims this results from "abnormally high temperatures."

    A heatwave has hit southern Russia. According to weather.com, for example, the temperature in Rostov-on-Don was 100°F on Tuesday. The Ministry of Energy believes this is the "main cause" of power outages and production shortages.

    According to official data released by the ministry, 324,000 people in the Rostov region, 181,000 in Krasnodar Territory and the Republic of Adygea, and 94,300 in the Astrakhan region are without power. In total, this is just under 600,000 Russians.

    "Kommersant" notes that a schedule of temporary power outages was introduced in the country's southern regions on July 8. "In conditions of high demand, wholesale electricity prices in the south are rising twice as fast as in the entire European part of the country," the daily writes.
     
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  19. G8trGr8t

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    China is deporting all of the NK labor as their visas expire. Guess we know where Putin will be getting his NK volunteers from..

    China demands North Korean workers return, income hit for Kim's regime (msn.com)


    China has demanded that North Korean authorities take back all of their citizens working in China, reported the South Korean agency Yonhap, citing anonymous sources. This decision means a reduction in the income of Kim Jong Un's regime.

    While the North Korean authorities wanted to withdraw their citizens gradually, Beijing demanded that Pyongyang take back all workers whose visas are expiring, claims an anonymous Yonhap source.

    The agency notes that China is seen as the main "cash cow" for the North Korean regime, which is struggling to obtain foreign currency due to international sanctions.

    The UN Security Council obligated all member states in 2017 to send back North Korean workers by the end of 2019 to cut off the regime from hard currency income. However, it is estimated that tens of thousands, and perhaps even hundreds of thousands, of such individuals remain in China and Russia.
     
  20. sierragator

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    cause of death: balcony?