War in Ukraine

Sounds like Americans during WWII which was not an existential conflict for Americans.

 

more sams taken out. Russia can't have many left and they seem to have no answer for the himars/atacms taking them out. I guess we will find out how many they have left when air operations start over Crimea. buyers of those expensive sams systems may be having second thoughts about now. just another benefit of supplying aid to ukraine. field test our systems...degrade enemy confidence in theirs

Ukraine hit Russian S-400, S-300 systems in occupied Crimea overnight, General Staff says (msn.com)

Ukrainian forces attacked Russian S-400 and S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems in several areas in occupied Crimea overnight on June 10, Ukraine's General Staff said. The statement came after a series of explosions were reported in the peninsula at night.

One S-400 anti-aircraft missile unit was hit near Dzhankoi, and two more S-300 anti-aircraft missile units were attacked near occupied Chornomorske and Yevpatoria, according to the military.

The radars of the systems reportedly stopped working "immediately" after the strikes. "None of our missiles fired were intercepted by the enemy's 'highly effective' air defense," the General Staff said.

"In addition, further detonations of ammunition were observed in all three areas of the launching positions of the Russian anti-aircraft missile divisions."

 

another balcony jumper. think djt would like to have this kind of power?

Judge known for punishing Kremlin foes mysteriously falls to her death from a window (msn.com)

 

I believe their threshold for suffering hardships is much higher than we can relate to. Plus a lifetime of propaganda convincing them of their plight as Russians.

 

I chuckle at references to Russian casualties knowing that Russia is said to have lost tens of millions in WWII.

 

ukraine to store some f-16's at secure locations outside of country...this feels rich for a reason why russia would target an airfield in nato territory

Ukraine to seek secure parking for F-16s abroad (msn.com)

Anticipating deliveries of US-made F16s from European allies, Ukraine has plans to store some of the fighter jets at bases abroad due to security concerns. A senior Ukrainian air force commander said in comments published late on Sunday that some of the F-16s set to be delivered by European allies for the war with Russia will be held at foreign bases while military personnel train to use them.

“There is a number that will go to Ukraine. There are a certain number of aircraft that will be stored at secure airbases, outside of Ukraine, so that they are not targeted here,” said Serhii Holubtsov, head of aviation at the air force command of the armed forces of Ukraine, in an interview with the US government-funded Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty published on Sunday.

Belgium, Denmark, the Netherlands and Norway have committed to providing Ukraine with more than 60 multipurpose fighter aircraft, but it could take several years before all are delivered. The first of the aircraft are expected to be delivered later this year, and Ukrainian pilots are currently undergoing training by Western allies to fly the warplanes.

The planes that are held back will “remain in those centres where our pilots and aviation personnel are trained”, Holubtsov continued. “This will be our reserve in case of need for replacement of faulty planes during routine maintenance.”

 

LOL at people who think a Russian frigate and submarine is the new Cuban Missile Crisis. This is just Putin trolling our neocons.

 

So this isn't an existential threat to Russia.....but Putin had to invade because there was an existential threat. Yeah, you're not spewing propoganda lol

 

Russian is still the predominant language spoken in Kharkov, so it’s perfectly appropriate to use that rendering of the spelling of the city’s name.

 

Hello, McFly! If you’ve been paying any attention, any attention at all, Putin (and Russians) regard the present conflict as existential, this based upon not so secret and longstanding US goals of seeing Putin ousted and his country weakened.

 

And by the way, Ukraine IS fighting the equivalent of the Wehrmacht. The Wehrmacht was one of the top two militaries in the world in the early 1940's. Russia is generally acknowledged to be one of the top two militaries in the world today with combat experience (China has plenty of troops, hardware and technology, but no significant combat experience).

 

And by the same token, Ukraine would have been regarded as a formidable adversary EVEN WITHOUT weapons and aid from 40+ countries.

 

Hello McFly! YOU making this "existential" because Putin feels threatened and justified to invade is the ultimate reach. The fact you were commenting on the normalcy in Russia despite an extended border war totally goes against the silly existential threat argument

 

Long-standing goals to weaken Russia? The U.S. helped rebuild Russia's economy in the 1990's. (We could have let the country rot, if weakening Russia was a long-standing goal.) Or is this something we need to add to the long list of things you do not know? We did not have a problem with Putin or Russia until Putin started rebuilding Russia's military and invading neighbors like Georgia and Ukraine in the 2008-2014 timeframe. That is called a "valid reason" to try to weaken Russia and Putin. If Russia did not want to be weakened, they should have stayed within their own borders.

 

Not very bright today, I see. Ignorant people often chuckle at things they do not understand. Tolerating casualties while one of the world's most dangerous militaries is advancing on your capital (obviously, an existential war), and tolerating casualties while your country's leader is out looking to rob a neighbor of some land and resources (obviously NOT an existential war) are two different things.

 

Pissing in the wind arguing with the bot Chem. Duggars (I'm a propoganda bot) Dad, may have forgotten without Western aid Russia would have folded like a cheap suit in WW2 during the critical years of 41 and 42. I guess that was a long standing goal to defeat Russia as well.

 

Ukraine is especially good at making replicas of their military hardware. I would like to see some F-16 replicas start showing up in Ukrainian airfields on the west side of Ukraine to get Russia to commit resources to take them out. If Russia attacks with fighter/bomber jets, maybe the Patriot systems would take them out. They could even create hardened bunkers underground so that F-16's could land and disappear, and replicas would show up on the tarmac.

 

No American has been killed for peacefully protesting the U.S. government since the Kent State incident in 1971, I believe. In Russia, this happens almost routinely.

 

Jeffrey Sachs, who was at Yeltsin’s side, when Russia signaled its eagerness to normalize relations with the U.S., is on the phone for you.