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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. duggers_dad

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    I’m not sure that I agree with Glenn. Russia could take Kharkiv and Odessa, reduce Ukraine to a rump state and call it a day … and our Spin Machine will depict the war as plucky Ukrainians thwarting Russia’s designs to take over the whole of Europe … and Americans will settle for that that as they wolf down $8.99 Burger King Whoppers.
     
  2. duggers_dad

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    I suspect this is spot-on. Anticipating a long and expanding war, Russia is playing the long game.
     
  3. vegasfox

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    Zelensky's term as president ends May 20. Will he flee? Be imprisoned? Executed by his generals? Get taken out by a Russianissile?

    Russia assured Zelensky they would not kill him while he was president.
     
  4. ursidman

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    Dunnit. Hope Ukraine can put to good use the 5 lugnuts I purchased
     
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  5. G8trGr8t

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    path for F-16's keeps getting clearer. if only Joe would have sent those long range atacms a year ago when he should have. Between his holding of weapons and maga blocking aid, thousands of brave Ukranian soldiers have died that didn't need to and lots of ground lost. smdh

    Crimea Air Base on Fire After ATACMS Strike Hosted 32 Russian Jets: Report (msn.com)

    A Russian air base in Crimea that caught fire following a suspected Ukrainian missile attack hosted dozens of military aircraft central to Moscow's invasion.

    Footage on social-media channels showed flames billowing into the air at the Belbek airfield near Sevastopol. Here is the focal point of Russia's Black Sea Fleet, whose vessels and infrastructure have been repeatedly targeted by Kyiv. Newsweek has as yet been unable to verify the footage.

    Krym Realii said that its data showed that at the airfield were based 12 Sukhoi Su-27 aircraft, 12 Sukhoi Su-27SM aircraft, and three Sukhoi Su-27UB combat training aircraft, as well as five two-seat Sukhoi Su-30M2—a total of 32 jets. The post did not outline whether the aircraft were damaged and that "it is unclear whether the fire was caused by a missile strike."

    The exact number of missiles involved is unclear, but Russian military blogger Ribar said the attack involved 16 ATACMS (Army Tactical Missile System) missiles, which last month the U.S. said it had given Kyiv.
     
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  6. G8trGr8t

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    Ukraine needs to line some people up against the wall and execute them publicly to stop this kind of bs...track the money to where it ended up, find that person and everyone along the way, line them up one by one, and shoot them in the head. Soldiers are dying because this fraud occurred and the defenses not built.

    If not public execution, send them to the front lines

    Anti-corruption group reveals fake companies in Kharkiv fortification contracts (msn.com)

    According to Mezha's findings based on open-source data, contracts were signed with companies that appear to be fictitious. Tens of millions of hryvnias were transferred to a private entrepreneur whose owner, Ihor Chaus, has a criminal record for stealing a bottle of whiskey from a supermarket and was sentenced to 100 hours of community service, said the anti-graft activist.
     
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  7. GatorJMDZ

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    Everything helps. He's now over $815K, up over $60K since I posted earlier. He raised his goal another $100K. The hatred for what Russia and the war criminal Putin are doing is real.
     
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  8. GatorJMDZ

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    I see you didn't address the following BS you simply invented. Typical for a coward.
    "Says the poster who laughs at an elderly woman separated from her family - by glass - in the twilight of her life."
     
  9. uftaipan

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    Ukraine warns it has no more reserves as Putin masses half a million fighters

    Russia has massed 500K for an assault on Kharkiv. Now let’s just say the Russian Army massively underperforms again, for the sake of argument. What is/are the most likely excuse(s) for failure?

    1. It was never anything close to 500K; it was only 12K

    2. It was a “feint” to get Ukraine to commit its reserves

    3. Ukraine lost over one million troops trying to defend Kharkiv, but Russia only had 14 lightly wounded (half of which were seasonal flu); this was Russia’s plan all along
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    Your laughing emoji on the recent Covid post. Damn, your memory must be worse than Biden’s.
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    Putin arrives in Beijing for Yalta 2.0 ? Putin and Biden to discuss how they’re going to parcel up the West ?

     
  12. PITBOSS

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    interesting from that article a key is the west’s (US?) putting limitations on Ukraine striking into Russia where the troops and tanks are staging.
     
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  13. uftaipan

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    I saw that, too. I wonder if the West has requested that Ukraine not open up on Russia with rocket artillery until the offensive actually starts.
     
  14. GatorJMDZ

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    Newsflash: Biden is not in Beijing.
     
  15. duggers_dad

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    It looks a helluva lot like an evil dictator in Russia decided one morning to wake up and invade his neighbor for no good reason and that brave America has come to the rescue of the plucky Ukrainians.

    We were told the monster was getting destroyed on the battlefield, but now somehow he’s threatening all of Western Europe; and if we aren’t careful, his tank may soon show up in your driveway.

    You’d be forgiven for thinking this, given that the most influential media machine in history has been employed to make it look that way.

    Making people believe anything is easy, if you leave out important parts of the story: the U.S. backed a coup overthrowing a democratically-elected government in Kiev; the coup-government started a civil war against Ukrainians who rejected the coup; the West pretended to agree to a peace agreement to end the civil war to create time to arm Ukraine to the teeth; the U.S. and NATO rejected a treaty proposal to prevent the invasion and ensure security in Europe; and the U.S. wanted regime change in Moscow through an economic, information and proxy war that has utterly backfired.

    Don't Get Played
     
  16. sierragator

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    I'm sure many in Ukraine would love to level the Kremlin. However, does doing that help their tactical and strategic goals?
     
  17. GatorJMDZ

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    I was laughing at you and the crap you post (as do many/most others....very few take you seriously.) I have no idea what your link was about, I generally don't click on them as most of your links are to bizarre nonsense.
     
  18. chemgator

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    Do they have a choice? They screwed up their short game with the futile march on Kiev, and Ukraine has been pounding them ever since.
     
  19. PITBOSS

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    Good point. per that article it sounded like russia is massing just over the border. Near Kharkiv. Maybe once they have the 500k soldiers and tanks they just charge towards Kharkiv. imo before that happens Ukraine wants to start lobbing atacms into masses of men and equipment just sitting there, but they are inside Russia.
    To your point, we’re concerned Ukraine starts losing bad and they launch missiles deeper into Russia. does russia then retaliate with nukes? But for now, Russia is taking advantage of the limitation we put on Ukraine and staging their army. It’s unfortunate Kharkiv is so close to the border. Maybe Ukraine used up their good luck at the start of the war.


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  20. chemgator

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    Wrong again, propaganda man. Russia is believed to have suffered about 350-465,000 casualties in the war, and is currently losing troops at a rate to match or exceed 330,000 soldiers this year. They should hit the 500,000 mark by the end of the year, if not sooner.

    The truth is that PUTIN views this war as existential. As in, if he loses it, he might as well put a bullet in his own head before he gets introduced to a balcony by the next Russian leader. The rest of Russia, outside of a few war-mongering bloggers and neo-Nazis, doesn't care. Whatever tiny value they might get out of Ukraine's minerals and farmland is by far exceeded by the persistent threat of having friends and relatives killed in war of conquest.

    Russian losses in Ukraine on course to far outstrip 2023 total