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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. duggers_dad

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    Chickenhawks preening themselves with their faux concern for Ukrainians.
     
  2. Gatorhead

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    American strategic policy since 44, the blood of tens of thousands Americans, killed in Korea, Vietnam, and all the conflicts around the globe against Soviet and now Russian expansion............. Held hostage by an ignorant GOP red neck traitor, that only see's a future with the worst, and most corrupt narcissist, in the history of the American political Experience.

    The blood of thousands of US soldiers past, and of Ukranians of the present, cover her hands, feet and grotesque mouth. Her game playing, partisan BS, is having unimaginably bad consequences for our nation, it's allies and the strategic position of the United States.

    May she meet her fate as a traitor, which she will ultimately be proven to be, in the HARSHEST, possible terms.
     
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  3. duggers_dad

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    Most of the bloodshed compliments of the War Party - Democrats.
     
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  4. PITBOSS

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    yep. MTG could have a clue but is selecting a lane to use demagoguery to stay popular. But there does seem to be an ignorance in those who support her. Not unintelligent, but just not following the complexities and only listen to simplistic feedback that offers confirmation bias.
    My biggest issue with her fringe political-sect is they won’t even let Ukraine support come up for a vote.
     
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  5. duggers_dad

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    Show of hands - who is still listening to the people who were telling us that Russia was running out of missiles two years ago ?
     
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  6. vegasfox

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    **crickets**
     
  7. vegasfox

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    From 2016

    John Mearsheimer (Univ of Chicago) explains why the crisis in Ukraine is the West:s fault.

     
  8. chemgator

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    Show of hands - who is still listening to the ignorant propaganda peddler who cheers for Russia to kill more Ukrainians while pretending to want to save Ukrainian lives (for a proper life as Russian slaves)?

    BTW, Russia has been running out of missiles for a while now. They have no stockpiles of missiles like they did when they started the war. That's why, in recent months, they've had to gather up missiles from recent production for a few weeks to initiate a large-scale attack on Ukraine. Russia is not engaging in large-scale missile attacks every day. Try not to be so ignorant.
     
  9. chemgator

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    Noticed that you failed to mention Putin's new conscription drive in Russia. Whatsamatta, the Kremlin didn't include that in your talking points for the day?
     
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  10. chemgator

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    Maybe the French will send in Afghan troops to kick Russia's ass. The Afghans know how to whip the Russians. Afghans did not do quite as well against the U.S., and would have done worse if the U.S. had avoided the Geneva Convention rules as much as the Russians did (and still do). According to your simple-minded logic, a few thousand Afghans should be enough to send Russia's weak army running for the hills.
     
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    Only an ignorant knuckle-dragger (no offense) would complain about debt woes from spending on military aid to Ukraine after being told repeatedly that we will save $2.5 trillion over the next decades if we can help Ukraine win this war. This is in fact why the U.S. has defense spending - to see our enemies defeated and make the world a more peaceful place.
     
  12. chemgator

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    I would say divide by 1.5 at the most. Russia has lost thousands of tanks. Why else would they bring so many older-model tanks out of storage and drag them across the largest country on earth to get to Ukraine?
     
  13. duggers_dad

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    I beg your pardon. Kyiv had an opportunity to negotiate with Russia in March 2022 the Istanbul Accords.

    The Accords were very favorable to Ukraine.

    Western parties swooped in and talked Kyiv into rejecting the accords.

    You cheered this.

    You wanted war.

    You’d like to see war to the last dead Ukrainian because it costs you nothing.
     
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  14. vegasfox

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    duggers_dad nailed it
     
  15. chemgator

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    I did NOT cheer the fact that Kiev rejected the accords, you LIAR! Why don't you show me proof that I cheered this, you LIAR! Or why don't you just admit that you are a no-good piece of trash LIAR!

    Of course, no one wanted war except Russia. Anyone with half a brain knows this. Once Russia started the war, I (like everyone else with any integrity) cheered for Ukraine to win. If Russia wins (which some moronic Americans appear to want to happen), it will cost me (and everyone else) a share of the additional $2.5 trillion that will be spent on national defense in the next decade as we find ourselves in another Cold War with both Russia and China. What say you, LIAR?
     
  16. vegasfox

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    Looks like chemgator has figured out who will win the war. Obviously Ukraine started the war by massively shelling civilians in the Donbas beginning February 16, 2022. That crossed one of Russia's 3 key red lines.

     
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    If you want cheap gasoline for the duration of the Ukraine War, you better send Ukraine some artillery shells. Failure to send military aid to Ukraine has led Ukraine to target Russia's refineries with drone attacks. The rest of the industrialized world wants cheap oil to prevent an economic downturn. With no military aid forthcoming from the U.S., the west has no leverage to persuade Ukraine to stop attacking Russia's refineries. Trump republicans are responsible for gas price increases and any economic problems resulting from that. Nice work, Trumpers!

    How Ukraine set Russia’s biggest economic asset on fire

     
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  18. vegasfox

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    Russian diplomat Nebenzya at the UN yesterday:

    “Very soon the only topic for any international meetings on Ukraine will be the unconditional capitulation of the Kiev regime."

    It was always going to end this way.
     
  19. vegasfox

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    At least BlackRock made money on the war. It willake gazillions more on Ukraine's reconstruction

     
  20. enviroGator

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    Pretty sure it is just you now. The rest of us put him on ignore about 2 years ago.

    If a Troll falls in the woods and no one pays any attention, is he still a troll?

    Do us all a favor and put him on ignore too. The thread would be much more useful if no one replied to his crap.
     
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