War in Ukraine

Can’t wait to see your meltdown when he wins. All because he won’t murder for you.

 

Daily Trumpgasn?

Lol!

 

Doh! Biden said what?

 

You're happy because Trump will murder Ukrainians for you? I don't think of Biden murdering Russians when he helps Ukraine. Russia brought this on themselves by starting the invasion with no valid reason whatsoever. Putin is responsible for all of the Russians killed in this war, without question. And make no mistake, Okeedokey, Trump will be murdering Ukrainians as he helps an innocent country get defeated and subjugated into slavery. But the important thing is that Trump's business investments in Russia will be protected (or even enhanced). (Imagine how things would be different if Trump had business investments in Ukraine, and not Russia.)

 

Very low-classed of you, 92. Very low.

 

• chemgator: "Russia brought this on themselves by starting the invasion with no valid reason whatsoever.

Me: The truth is that Ukraine shelled ethnic Russians in the Donbas for almost 8 years, killing thousands. Then on February 16, 2022, Ukraine began 8 days of massive artillery shelling and was preparing to invade. Russia responded by entering Ukraine under Article 51 of the UN Charter.

Zelensky called the Swiss the day after the war started to get them to arrange a peace conference. The EU said no, which tells me the Biden administration wanted war. Zelensky and Putin were ready to sign a ceasefire deal March. As I predicted on my Twitter accountarch 23, the Biden administration would reject the deal. Biden puppet Boris Johnson called and then visited Zelensky, urging him not to sign.

The neocons wanted war.

chemgator named 1 "recognized subject authority that he follows, the neocon ISW (Institute for the Study of War). The ISW is headed by the neocon Kimberly Kagan, whose husband is neocon Frederick Kagan. Frederick's brother is the notorious neocon Robert Kagan. Robert's wife is the person most responsible for the war, neocon Victoria Nuland. Nuland allowed Ukraine to kill American journalist Gonzalo Lira. Other Americans on Ukraine's kill list: Scott Ritter, Tucker Carlson, Gonzalo Lira(liquidated),Tulsi Gabbatd and Elon Musk. There's even a young pro-Russian female blogger on the hot list.bi think she is 14. Their crimes? Stating the truth as they saw it.

Biden predicted Russia would invade on February 16 because he knew that was when the massive shelling of the Donbas would begin. He could have stopped it but the neocons wanted war and Democrats thought it would help them in the midterms

 

That was his body of work from yesterday in this thread. After you sift through the horrible spelling, extremely casual acquaintance with the rules of English grammar, insults, and factual inaccuracies, one is left with the inescapable conclusion that not only were Hillary's comments about "deplorables" correct, she was being generous.

 

"The United States directly or indirectly funds a Ilrainian government connected NGO that puts Americans on a kill list.

The ‘Peacemaker’ Hit List
Until the Biden administration answers Sen. J.D. Vance’s questions, Republicans should prevent sending a single dollar to Ukraine.

"...the Ukrainian government is adding American citizens to a public hit list."
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-peacemaker-hit-list/



Myrotvorets (Peacemaker website:
https://myrotvorets.center/

 

I try to keep up on this thread so apologies if already posted.



Greece plans to transfer 32 F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine

 

“We can only hope for a miracle” …

 

What business investments does Trump have in Russia currently? Please cite a link or document affirming said ownership, should you be able to name any.

 

Imagine the outrage if Russia and Putin were doing this. But it's Ukraine so...silence:

 

Another batch of Vatnik's lies. But this one is rich :"Ukraine began 8 days of massive artillery shelling and was preparing to invade." So Ukraine was going to invade its own sovereign territory? But Putin invaded Ukraine instead. Up is down Vatnik?

 

Biden is seeing Ukrainians exterminated all by himself, no help from Trump.

 

The US helped replace the democratically elected Ukrainian president who was friendly to Russia and Ukraine's ethnic Russians. Eastern Ukraine (Donetsk and Luhamsk declared their independence and wanted to be part of Russia. Putin told them to remain part of Ukraine. There was an 8 year civil war withany civilians dying from Ukrainian ay artillery. Putin tried to help bring a ceasefire. ,(Minsk 1 and 2). Angela Merkel eventually aitted Grant was not serious about a ceasefire, they just wanted to buy time to rearm Ukraine.

Remember, when Kosovo declared it's independence from Serbia the US recognized their independence under Article 51 of the UN Charter. When Ukraine started theirassive artillery shelling and was preparing to invade Putin recognized the DPR and LPR and beat Ukraine to the punch, citing Article 51. Putin played by Washington:s precedent with Kosovo.

The Biden administration ignored Russia's red lines:

1) No NATO for Ukraine

2) No nuclearissiles in Ukraine

3) Ukraine must stop shelling ethnic Russians

#3 red line was crossed and eventually #1 and #2 would have been crossed and Russia would have had a hostile country on its border with nukes that could hit Moscow in 3 minutes.

So far you and your friends have proven zero lies. Embarrassing.

 

I think saying they were well on their way to winning is a huge stretch. They have basically reached a stalemate after their initial wave of gains almost 2 years ago. The later Ukrainian counteroffensive yielded very little gains and that was before Republicans pulled the plug.

Those that have been saying Russia is winning are not correct either. currently Russia is making very modest gains, but at substantial expense to their military capability and now their infrastructure.

Neither side is likely to win this by brute force. It will either be deemed a stalemate like Korean War or one side just gets tired and gives up, which would more likely be Russia.

As long as Ukrainians want to fight we should do everything we can to support them. It signals Russia and China that the cost of naked territory grabs will be very high, and it continues to weaken the military capability of Russia which is clearly a good thing given their less than honorable intentions.

 

About all those F-16’s being lined up for Ukraine. And this from an American who loves F-16’s …

The notion that the US (and/or its NATO allies) can ship F-16s and A-10s to Ukraine in order to save the Ukrainians from an otherwise absolutely certain defeat is an unqualified delusion; a ridiculous fantasy of the highest order.

To be even more precise, it’s batshit crazy silly talk.

Flying Coffins

 

The Ukrainians were never “well on their way to winning” at any juncture.

Except maybe the PR war. And now they’re losing that.