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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. chemgator

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    Leaked Russian military files from a decade ago indicate what level of losses Russia would tolerate before launching tactical nuclear missiles.

    Secret military files reveal when Russia would consider using nuclear weapons, including the destruction of 20% of its ballistic missile submarines: FT

     
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    Another Russian ship get lit up like a Christmas tree. This one in the Sea of Azov. The type of ship has not been determined, but it belongs to the FSB border service.

    Ukraine's Defence Intelligence says Russian boat ablaze in Sea of Azov, casualties reported

     
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  3. chemgator

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    Russian troops are still gathering in large numbers behind the front lines, making them big targets for missiles once the drones spot them.

    Russian troops are said to be gathering in large groups, allowing them to be targeted by drones and taken out by missiles: ISW

     
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  4. chemgator

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    Finland approves $205 million defense aid package for Ukraine.

    Finnish Defense Minister: Ukraine can use Finnish-provided weapons to strike Russia

     
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  5. chemgator

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    European countries are sourcing large numbers of Russian-caliber 122mm artillery rounds from other countries to provide to Ukraine.

    European states gather Soviet-style artillery rounds for Ukraine

     
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  6. chemgator

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    Putin has been begging China for loans to prop up the Russian economy. China does not think Russia is a very good credit risk, apparently.

    2024 is already straining the seams of China and Russia's 'no limits' partnership

     
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    Well, of course the Russians are not employing “human waves” for this very reason. ISR and drones have changed the face of war. And if the US put boots on the ground it would face the same problem.
     
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    Europe needs to step up since they are the ones threatened. They’ve depended on the US for too long. If they do that and we finally get our heads out of our asses and continue aid to Ukraine they have a chance to bloody some Ruskie noses.
     
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    Not trying to be a hall monitor just thought you would be interested in that historical tidbit.
     
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    The silliness continues unabated, the incoherent Russia’s a paper tiger but my God! it’s poised to take over Europe if we don’t keep writing checks.
     
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    23 Abrams tanks have now been destroyed in Ukraine as well as the first F-16 shot down.
     
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    Doing uncle Vlad a solid.
     
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  16. duggers_dad

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    Distant uncle.
     
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    Russian Air Force (2024).

    This says 3649

    losing 13 by itself isn’t strategically a big deal but seems like it would get costly and some of those nets may be their better jets.
     
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  18. duggers_dad

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    US lost 65,154 planes in WWII.
     
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    Will buy Ukrainian troops Snickers and Gatorade.
     
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