Violent thugs and hooligans brutally attack police officers in D.C.

An unemployed, frequent user of peyote and mushroom who thinks he is an alien who comes from a different dimension is a/the leader of QAnon? Among the more believable aspects of their conspiracy

 

I looked in and read through a few threads on TOS a few hours before they locked the door. You're spot on. What I read would without doubt have a few people on 'watch lists' for making posts saying things like they wished they had been in Washington that day, they would have had their guns, and what they would have done and who they would have hurt if they had been there.

I can only speculate what motivates some of the hard line right wing Trumpists to post here on GC. Maybe they don't want to pay the rent charge the management on TOS now requires to access the borderline treasonous belligerent bravado posted over there.

Whatever the reason, it appears for some GC is hard to quit.

 

The new statement from "formerly bold" insurrectionists that proudly bragged about being in the Capitol, about the "revolution" they were doing and about the harm they wanted to do is part of a pattern.

When getting caught they all say "violence is not the answer and never will be. We all need to sit down and discuss our issues and unite".
Sound familiar? Republicans are saying the exact same thing only days after they ran their mouths. By the way, speaking of mouths , I strongly suggest that people do all they can to vote Desantis and Gaetz out of office when possible. Those 2 are working very hard to be the next Trump and are very vocal about continuing the rhetoric of lies and misinformation.

 

Jenna Ryan is a Texas Realtor who flew to the protest in a private jet. As she marched from Trump's speech to the Capitol, she posted, "This is a prelude to the war that's about to happen."
As she entered the Capitol, she posted "Life or death, it doesn’t matter. Here we go."

Now that she's been arrested, she's asked for a presidential pardon and said she's being persecuted.

Jenna Ryan, who took jet to Capitol riot, asks Donald Trump for a pardon

Texas realtor who took private jet is charged in Capitol riot

 

Do you know what is missing from your post? one of the things Trump did for our country. He activated the greater threat to our country. The radical right wing, including their militias. Invaded Congress.

But, you can't even come to mention it. Guess why? Because you don't see them as radicals. They are your mainstream.

So, spare us the "both sides" and how the left treated Trump. He is an demagogic wanna be autocrat who has spent his time placating and activating the fringe, violent right.

It started before he was elected, with posts of a star from a Neo-Nazi site calling for Hilary Clinton's arrest. Continue with the fine people on both sides in Charlottesville. He declared Antifa-- which opposes these groups-- a terrorist group. While he ignored the FBI identifying these right wing groups a greater threat and, instead, asked them to "Stand by." Until his son told Congress these groups were coming for them; Guiliani told these terrorists that it was "trial by combat"; Trump told them to march down to the Capital and told them to fight.

We predicted and repeatedly called out this march to autocracy here. We called out the lie about election fraud that was employed to galvanize his calls to insurrection. While the right enabled the lie; passed it along, voted for it in Congress.

That the "left" stood up to Trump and for our republican democracy, good for the left.

But, spare us the sanctimony about your fringe right wing beliefs. We condemn them too.

 

Antifa stands up to these right wing groups. Anitifa is the perfect boogeyman to blame to deflect and they do it because they sympathize with these right wing groups.

The lies are an essential tool for the autocrat.

 

In addition to the truly deranged believers, entitled brats who want to be seen as some sort of modern revolutionary are another significant population within the QMAGA alliance.

This lady went to play. And she had the resources to have a blast. It’s like West World for this segment. They go to be a righteous outlaw for the weekend, then back to the board room. No big deal, it’s all just a show, and she’ll be fine no matter what.

Now she is an actual outlaw, and here we go with the blame-shifting and diminishment of the event.

I will give her credit for directly asking for a pardon, publicly. She is more dignified in that regard than the whole Rudy Crew combined.

 

Wrong. He does get it.

It doesn't matter that he says he does not agree. He can't bring himself to discuss the who, what, when, where and why of the insurrection. Nor can he avoid the false equivalency.

His condition for criticism of an attack on Congress is that one must first condemn BLM and Antifa.

It is just more right wing drivel lacking of moral clarity and trying to create a false equivalency.

Helps them justify how they really feel, not matter what they say or don't say.

 

No. Those who stormed the capital were more than idiots.
Again, you just can't bring yourself to describe what they did.

Instead, you blame BLM and Congress for the violent insurrection attempted by right wing extremists.

To be clear: they were violent, right wing extremists bent on killing and capturing members of Congress and fomenting insurrection.

The right wing extremists are responsible for their actions.

 

As a realtor I don't even post my political VIEWS on FB, let alone, if I were radical, do something to get arrested. But then again, I'm not radical. Bye Bye apparently successful business.

 

The “Stop The Steal” insurrection that featured dozens of flamethrowing speeches that covered every insane cover story that didn’t mention BLM was totally about BLM.

 

What a moron. He managed to post on social media a confession that includes every element of sedition.

 

This is what you come up with at this point in the thread?

Alternative facts from an alternative reality.

 

Private to try to hide the posts from scrutiny. No great secret. It isn't going to work if the FBI is interested.

 

You are right, of course, but it does keep the merely curious and concerned out.

One of the free board regulars on that forum who is now locked out, 'vented' about it on an unlocked forum on the same site. One of the responses he received from a paying patron was telling.
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"It's not about that anymore Chief. There are an increasing number of people that are posting borderline (if not over) criminal things. Even Ox restricting access to paid numbers only minimizes potential fallout from that in this environment, it certainly doesn't provide any real protection.

"There are several "adults" here that might end up wishing they had moderated themselves because we are now in an environment where someone, not Ox, is going to "moderate" them externally."
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The reply from the paying patron received a 'like' from our old friend NOLA.

 

That sad thing about that site is that it happened so gradually they don't even realize how far they have gone. And it was entirely self-inflicted, they did this to themselves.

Maybe one or two of them were always like this, but many of those posters, when they were here, weren't wingnuts and were willing to work within the bounds of reality. Some of the stuff posted over there before they locked it down was loonytoons.

 

In their own words.

An Air Force Combat Veteran Breached the Senate

Kentucky man charged for alleged Capitol riot involvement says officer told him, 'It's your house now'

 

Being isolated from reality and shut off from rational discourse as they are, has emboldened them and given them the false courage to say and write the hateful things that have been posted on that forum. They are almost like children daring one another to top the last outrageous boast. They are careless and foolish.

Some years back I recall one of them posting he kept a gun in his car for protection against anticipated violence from lawless perpetrators (he used another word), but "had not used it, yet." The yet in his post was telling and when I pushed him a little on it he tried to walk it back, saying he was not implying he intended to shoot someone. His word, however spoke a different message and he is one who posted seditionist encouragement before the lock down.

 

Most gun owners are law-abiding citizens with no desire to hurt another person but there are some who are just itching to see what it's like to shoot another human being. I know this from personally listening to people talk. Fortunately, the latter kind is not that plentiful when compared to gun owners as a whole.

 

Yeah, she fits right in with trump and his millions of "victims". Not sure I have ever seen a bigger bunch of snowflakes.