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Victor Davis Hanson Comparison of US Now and the Soviet Union Then

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ETGator1, Jul 12, 2024.

  1. sierragator

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    Don't you ever tire of being a perpetual victim?
     
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  2. philnotfil

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    I missed this one, who got hauled off to prison without due process?
     
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  3. Contra

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    The party you support has enough victimhood tears to fill the entire ocean. You don't get to complain about people playing the victim if you align with the left.
     
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  4. ETGator1

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    Yes. Maybe later on the research, busy tonight, not that you are open minded about it or will accept the sources. Don't ask me to do it if you intend to not watch and read what I provide.
     
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  5. ETGator1

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    Yes.
     
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  6. ETGator1

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    No.

    Do ever tire of being wrong?
     
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  7. sierragator

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    Please don't presume to tell me what I can and cannot do. BTW, I'm not even a registered democrat.
     
  8. sierragator

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    Finally an honest response from you: " no" you never tire of being a victim. That speaks volumes.
     
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  9. Contra

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    You can do whatever you want, but the party of victimhood is the Democratic Party. There is no bigger victimhood card players than the left.
     
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  10. rivergator

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    Right.
    The media is against you.
    The entertainment industry is against you.
    K-12 schools are against you.
    Colleges are against you.
    Elite colleges are even worse.
    Big tech is really against you.
    Federal law enforcement is against you.
    Shoot, even state courts are too.
    Oh, don't forget established science and medicine.

    I probably left out a few.
     
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  11. sierragator

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    Interesting when the standard bearer of the gop is the biggest snowflake on the planet.
     
  12. Contra

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    My critique of the left is not that I am a victim of anything, but that the left is evil by biblical moral and ethical standards. My critique is they oppose God. God is definitely not a victim of anyone. He'll defend His own honor and glory against those who oppose Him. There is no question about that.
     
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  13. sierragator

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    Practice your faith as you see fit. No one is stopping you. Not everyone believes as you do. Come to terms with that.
     
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  14. Contra

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    I have come to terms with that. You say practice your faith as you see fit, but in my faith Jesus is Lord over all. The Father has given Jesus all authority in heaven and on earth. That implies the authority of the state belongs to Jesus, and I will participate in the voting process, the political process, and even the public square based on that truth. The question is can you come to terms with the fact that biblical Christians will act upon the fundamental biblical truth that Jesus is Lord when voting in elections, advocating in the political realm, and speaking in the public square? Have you come to terms with the fact that all religions are endowed with religious freedom in this country? That means we get to vote on our authentically held religious principles. It also means we get free speech to state our fundamental religious conviction that Jesus is Lord is over all, including Lord over the state and Lord over the body. That means we get religious freedom to state that the entire realm of morality, ethics, and human rights singularly belongs to the triune God and no one else. We have every right to advocate for Christ's Lordship over the government, the public square, and every living and breathing creature in this country.
     
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  15. Emmitto

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    Off the rails with the last two sentences.

    Your “authority” is no greater than mine.
     
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  16. Contra

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    Those last two sentences are part of my faith. Christians have been saying that Jesus is Lord since the days of the apostles. That is an absolute fundamental truth of Christianity. There is not a square inch of the universe where Jesus is not Lord. There is no square inch of the universe that gets a shield or an opt out because they don't like it. Jesus is Lord over all. That is Christianity, and anyone who denies it does not know Christianity even if they claim they do.

    Now, your second sentence is true to an extent. We have equal political authority. We both get one vote and one voice. That is it. You are correct about that, but that is an authority that we steward. Stewards are entrusted with things that have been bestowed upon them by an owner. Every steward eventually answers to the one who bestowed them with their stewardship. The owner and the steward do not have equal authority.
     
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    Well if he is elected, we can only hope.
     
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    What does that have to do with the left being victims? You didn’t refute a single point that River made. And he didn’t even point out that your party is lead by the biggest orange titty baby victim that has ever walked the earth. He’s being treated VERY UNFAIRLY.
     
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    No one cares about your belief in fairy tales. We do care about you ignoring the truth about the people you see fit to vote for.
     
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  20. Contra

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    He tried to tell me how I have a victim mindset, and I told him why I don’t have a victimhood mindset. Frankly, much of the leftist enterprise is professional whining and professional victimhood. That is what ties critical race theory, feminism, post-colonialism, and critical gender studies together. That is what identity politics is. It is whining in a puddle of tears about “Not fair.”

    If you graduate with a degree in African American Studies you know how to whine and complain about society and politics. That is what you learned how to do. That is what Ibrahim Kendi does. He is a professional whiner and a professional victim card player. There are myriads of people with degrees, and that is all they learned what to do is write papers, crunch statistics, and site sources so they can throw professional pity parties and complain about how society is not fair. Victimhood is the essence of identity politics.

    Anyways, I thought it was ironic to see someone complain about @ETGator1 playing the victim card too much. I know y’all have a right to your political views. It is a free country, which means you can play that victim card all day every day. But let’s at least be honest about the side of the political aisle that consistently cries about being a victim. That is definitely the left.
     
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