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Vast Majority of Americans Support Photo ID and proof of Citizenship to vote

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by TheGator, Oct 24, 2024 at 3:31 PM.

  1. phatGator

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    So you accept photo IDs for airplanes and buses, but not for voting?

    If people are content to go through life without a photo ID, then what makes you think they will bother to vote? If they won’t put out the effort to get an ID then why would they put out the effort to vote?

    People only vote twice a year at the most. People need photo IDs just to navigate every day life in so many other ways.
     
  2. dangolegators

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    The difference is a few fraudulent Repub votes in, say, The Villages don't kill a plane load of people.
     
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  3. pkaib01

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    Air travel and bus services are private activities where security is a top concern. Voting is a fundamental democratic right. The stakes are different—voting is about ensuring that every eligible citizen, including those who may face barriers to obtaining a photo ID, has a voice in our country.

    Your false equivalence will get little traction here.
     
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  4. gator_jo

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    Not at all. I think many people would totally accept airplanes and busses that were pre-registered, and had a signature check and database.

    You may have noticed that practically nowhere that requires ID has that?

    (Although there may be some issues with the immediacy of security wrt airplanes....if you can see the difference between that and voting? )

    Christ, this stuff is obvious. It's just circular logic at this point, with people who are intent on using their own untrue "facts."
     
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  5. rtgator

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    More projection from the right.

    The GQP ignores what most Americans want for climate change, gun regulations, health care, women's rights, LGBTQ+ rights, etc.

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  6. QGator2414

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    There is only one party who continuously fights to make elections less secure.

    The dems on this board are a shining example!
     
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  7. phatGator

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    You’re making the assumption that those who don’t have IDs have faced barriers. I suspect it’s much more they just haven’t bothered. If voting is important to them, they will make the effort to get an ID.
     
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  8. rtgator

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    The clear and present threat is the wannabe dictator Donald Trump, who admires Vladimir Putin, loves Kim Jong Un and speaks like Adolf Hitler . . . .

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  9. pkaib01

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    I make no assumption. Studies have found financial limitations, lack of transportation, or complex bureaucratic hurdles are barriers and can reduce overall turnout by a couple of points.

    I find the "if they want it bad enough they can figure it out" attitude quite callous.
     
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  10. gatorchamps960608

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    You keep making this proof-free claim.

    People's ballots were stolen in Colorado, filled out and returned and the system caught it and it's getting corrected.

    In Florida, you have to sign your outer envelope and the signature has to match your registration version. If the ballot is rejected, you can cure it in person at an election office.

    Back up your claim with something substantial or quit saying it.
     
  11. GatorRade

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    I would reword this to read “The only reason I can imagine not to require an ID is for voter fraud.” It is the same with some liberals believing that the only reason to oppose abortion is control women’s bodies.

    The problem comes when we assume the limits of our imagination to be the limits of reality. At that point, we must assume those with alternative imaginations to be liars.
     
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  12. citygator

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    I have no idea where you shop... maybe strip clubs? But I have never in my life been asked for my ID in order to use my credit card.
     
  13. rivergator

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    I don’t think I’ve ever been asked for an ID to use a credit card
     
  14. citygator

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    Please post your ID so we know you posted this. Otherwise I suspect it wasnt you.
     
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  15. gatorchamps960608

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    There's only one party that continuously fights to suppress the vote to make elections go their way.

    High turnout elections very rarely benefit the GOP.
     
  16. WC53

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    Which party was under a 20 year consent decree?